"Always listen to the crazy scientist with a weird van or armful of blueprints and diagrams." -- Vibranium
The only versions of Spider Man that got near universal praise from fandom were the animated versions.
And I'm sure that even then, there was somebody, somewhere that was beefing that the excellent Spectacular Spider Man featured a high school aged Peter Parker.
You can't please everyone. It's insane to even try.
Last edited by Kaitou D. Kid; 08-24-2021 at 08:30 PM.
I mean, the previous poster gave us a pretty good example (Spectacular Spider-Man). I would describe it as something that generally doesn't cause a lot of debate and controversy among a group. We can also add the Insomniac game, Into The Spider-Verse, and even the first two Raimi films to that list for obvious reasons.
If I could pick a twist (besides evil Strange/Mephisto) to occur I think having the sixth member of the Sinister Six be a variant of Jake’s Mysterio who can actually use magic would be fun.
Not sure what is happening with Keaton’s Vulture though. Given Morbius was teasing him I guess some assumed he might appear but since that movie’s universe status is unclear and gets constantly delayed I dunno… would have been nice to see him on the Sinister Six.
There are also bunch of stories Spider-Man has a mentor and does get pep talk
This isn't new by any means, I swear people just like to revise history and pretend certain stories don't exist
They already reached it, otherwise there wouldn't be so much hype for this movie or there wouldn't be such a huge controversy when it looked Marvel and Sony split
Last edited by Metro; 08-25-2021 at 02:22 AM.
Re-watched the entirely of the 90s Spider-Man series this year and you wouldn't believe how many times he goes into a secret laboratory in someone's apartment or an abandoned industrial complex where there's some kind of science laser beam thing on a gimbal that goes out of control during the ensuing fight. Which all leads me to think:
-New York City really needs to work on its zoning regulations for Secret Science Labs.
-Mad scientists should consider putting their mutation/portal/disintegrations beams on a static mount in case Spider-Man starts a fight in their lab.
-Or at least not tie people up in proximity to the gimballed laser so that they have to be rescued at the last possible second as it slowly rotates toward them.
-If every mad scientist/super-villain Spider-Man fights has a personal connection to Peter Parker somehow, maybe consider that Peter Parker may be the problem.
-Also, how does no-one notice the massive electricity cost of all these super science labs. Who is paying the bills?
I mean, all of those examples you brought up are people he eventually rebels against and has a change of opinion about in other continuities where he may have looked up to them. This Spider-Man however never has his T'Challa moment where he stops blindly looking up to his idols like that, and that is the problem. It would be fine if he started out that way and had a change in attitude, but he hasn't had that in five films. This version is sadly not allowed to have opinions like that, and it reeks of ageist undertones too. Which is actually kinda crazy because challenging ageist notions about teens was one of the things Spider-Man was created for, much like how Black Panther challenges racist notions about black people.
How much of that hype has to do with Holland's Spider-Man, and how much of it has to do with the return of Garfield/Maguire and with exploiting the current Spider-Verse hype? The return of the previous two actors has been a massive part of this film's marketing and appeal, so the film's hype can't simply be credited to Homecoming and Far From Home. If anything, the fact Holland is the first Spider-Man to not be able to carry film without help from the previous Spider-Man, kinda proves my point.
Last edited by Kaitou D. Kid; 08-25-2021 at 07:38 AM.
There's a difference between saying it's a version with characteristics that you don't personally enjoy and saying it's a character that doesn't feel like Spider-Man period. The first way of expressing yourself makes it clear it's your own subjective opinion while the latter makes it sound like it's an objective fact...and that second option is demonstrably false which is why several people countered your post.