Whatever. I've heard the arguments for "remake/not a remake." I find the latter holds more water, esp. taking into account that the Star Wars movies have always parallel each other. You feel differently, okay. No skin off my nose.
Whatever. Movies are subjective.
ANH was a standalone movie that got two sequels to be turned into a trilogy. TFA is organically the first act of a trilogy.
It explained what happened after ROTJ, and it wasn't the happy ending we thought it was, and history kind of repeated itself. Works as a pesudo-cap and a new beginning, esp. since there's now a new generation of heroes.
I recall that the director summed up the movie's theme as being about the irresponsible use of technology (quoting Malcolm's lunchbox rant from the original movie).
Not the movie I saw.
Okay, you don't like the movie, I love it. Not sure what else there is to be said.
The story was about stealing the Death Star plans. ANH opens with the Rebels fleeing with the stolen plans. Not having one lead into the other raise a lot of questions.
Whatever.
I don't get the problem. While the title crawl is a little vague (it was made years prior), there's nothing factual in that contradicts R1. Why look for problems when none exist?
That change in perspective doesn't create any real problems. Leia's cover story was always a load of bull (they were fleeing the law and shooting at a Navy ship), and she and Vader knew it. R1 just shows exactly how much bull they both knew the story to be.
It does show how the plans were sent to the Tantive IV, how it escaped Scarif, and the context of Vader and Leia's conversation when she's arrested.
It connects the dots, showing us how we get to ANH. Had the movie ended after the leads died, it would leave the question of how the plans got to Leia unanswered.
Evidently the old ideas were made fresh enough for me, unlike you.
TFA has different narrative needs from ANH. If it needed its own cantina scene, that's not a problem.
Whatever.
Is that why so many are New York Times bestsellers.
Since they're fully canonical, they're relevant to the discussion. Ignoring them is along the lines of trying to divorce Star Trek: First Contact from the TV show episode it's a sequel to.
The movies don't give us the full picture.
A.) While it is used to show that Luke is in control of his skills, no where is it said that it's a hallmark of a master Jedi. B.) It doesn't have to be the very first lesson to be an elementary skill, and C.) we only see snippets of Yoda's training. None of that contradicts Rebels showing us that its something novices can learn or the TFA novelization confirming that Rey figured out how to do the trick by copying what happened when Kylo read her mind and she pushed back. Both sources are canonical, so the "facts" have been set and disprove the theory you presented there,
Took three tries (and we never see her do it again, so it could be luck that she got it right; mastery is being able to repeat at will), and, as stated above, Luke first doing it three movies into his story is irrelevant to when other characters "should" do it and is inconsistent with how the mind trick works in canon as a whole.
Telekinesis? Luke didn't learn that from Yoda, he self-taught himself (Heir to the Jedi). Proven in ESB, when he uses it on Hoth, before becoming Yoda's apprentice. Telekinesis has also been shown to be usable untrained (Rebels episode "Droids in Distress").
Strong willed people can resist mind tricks and the like. In ANH, Vader commented that Leia resisted mind-probing and, beyond commenting that it would take time to wear her down that way, didn't seem to surprised that someone he thought was a muggle could do that. Anakin suggested that Padme was too strong-willed to be mind-tricked in AOTC (although he may have been teasing her). In the Clone Wars show, we also see non-Force user Cad Bane offer signifiant resistance to being mind-tricked. So, Rey being able to resist has precedence and doesn't need to be connected to her using the Force. Also, she struggles to block Kylo for some time (he's able to read quite a few things before she starts successfully pushing back).
As far as Kylo doing new things, his mind reading skills seem to be either mind tricks or mind probes, both of which have been established before (mind tricks are seen throughout the movies and Vader mind-probed Leia offscreen in ANH, as he tells Tarkin before the latter decided to use Alderaan to break her). His freezing the blaster bolt was probably applied telekinesis, which is a common Force talent.
First of all, Kylo was bleeding from the gut after being shot by Chewie's super bowcaster and in terrible shape (he visibly gets sloppier the longer the duels go on). Secondly, Kylo was trying to take her alive, Rey was not using such restraint. Thirdly, Rey was applying her experience with melee combat with staffs to use the saber (obvious by watching her moves in the film and confirmed in the junior novelization). Finally, her connecting with the Force was her turning point (it was showing her Kylo's strikes before they happened). A lot of special circumstances were in play here and she won by technicalities and a handicap.
You're ignoring a lot of stated evidence and your only argument is mostly speculation. Based on the evidence, I still have to submit that Rey is not overpowered.
The First Order controls a region of space. Their planets need to exist somewhere. I'm not 100% sure what the map is like, but Starkiller Base can move from location to location and it also fires its beams through sub-hyperspace, so it has a pretty decent range across the Galaxy.
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JJ Abrams confirmed by the official Star Wars twitter account to return as writer/director of Episode IX.
I'm a big fan of the Force Awakens and JJ Abrams in general so, before the inevitable backlash comes, I'm super happy with this decision.
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Expect some kind of giant worm and a merry band of primitive furballs for episode 9.
Just a hunch.
(and rey in a slave suit i guess..or finn maybe )
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While I was looking forward to Trevorrow on the movie and would very much like to see Steven Spielberg take a crack at Star Wars sometime, Abrams did a great job with TFA, his filmmaking "voice" meshes well with the franchise, and, by all accounts he was involved with hashing out the rough outline of the sequel trilogy. I think this is a good call.
It is worth noting that TFA was made "safe," for lack of a better term, to help ease viewers back into the franchise with it's new start. With that established, what's there to assume that number nine will be the same?
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A miraculous replication of the 1977 experience, without replicating the actual A NEW HOPE movie (which people seem to be complaining about here).
It's kind of like hoping some new band will arrive with a new sound and it will be "I Want To Hold Your Hand" in 1964 all over again, except totally new and different.
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Loved TFA, despite the ANH similarities, so this is more than fine by me. Just don't model this one so much off Jedi (like, please don't do Starkiller Base II), and we're cool.
My hope is this saga doesn't have any "return to the light" scenarios either. I'd have IX be simply about defeating Snoke and Ren for good, and establishing a stronger hope for genuine return of a New Jedi Order. The miraculous return to the light for a seemingly irrevocably lost being should be Vader/Anakin's unique tale. I want to see Kylo just be a genuinely irredeemable evil guy who is defeated.
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I would be. Its highly unlikely. As was stated above, the ANH similarities werethe result of wanting to be safe and cement a sort of "Star Wars is back!" ideal to those disillusioned with the prequels. The smash hits of TFA and Rogue One now being established, that feeling--the argument of whether or not it was even a legitimate concern in the first place notwithstanding--should be gone by now.
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