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Remember that raunchy prostitute Dragon dated early on in the book? Back when things were so much more PG-13? Well, guess who back …
And that, ladies and gentlemen is how you do a cover.
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Remember that raunchy prostitute Dragon dated early on in the book? Back when things were so much more PG-13? Well, guess who back …
And that, ladies and gentlemen is how you do a cover.
Just read issue 230-WOW. I like the direction things are going in being that comics like this are pretty much extinct these days due to the outrage mob. It's been building up to this type of thing little by little but it is a little shocking I'll admit-but hey I'm not complaining. I'll never get why ppl get so triggered over super powers and sexual themes. It's basically built in to the genre.
i do have a question for Erik though. There reportedly was a dispute between you and the creator of Ant about an Ant comic being to graphic . But you seem to be past that now-so what got you to go over the top? And will Ant be showing anytime soon? That'd be great.
Is an Ant solo still on the cards or will it be mostly appearances in SD from now on?
See now that's what's winding me down more than the sex and nudity. Glum. I find the character childish rather than being engaging as a villain. I am waiting for the day when Erik finally decides to kill off this character or let him fade into obscurity.
Cezar is cool, bro. He's not being insulting in his request. He's just saying it turns him off and he wants it gone. Nothing wrong with that.
As a guy who reads a lot of sex comics, Erik's stuff is tame compared to other stuff that's out there. So in my desensitized mind I'm surprised people are so livid over the sex in his book.
But maybe Cezar has a good point: an edited version and an unedited version should be put out. Or he could just make some sex comics for perverts like me. I'd add SD sex comics to pull list before the 1st issue came out. Heh heh.
Dear Mr. Larsen,
I am another big fan of Savage Dragon who will no longer purchase your comic as long as you are including the kind of graphic sexuality as depicted in #228. I was willing to accept it as a one off experiment on your part, until I read #230 and you had the Dimension X trio running around naked for no storytelling purpose that I can see. And topped off with a full-frontal splash page. Your book used to be about superhero fights and adventure with the occasional naughty bits thrown in; I feel like now it's mostly about the sex with occasional nods to superheroes. The idea that Dragon has always had this stuff is completely disingenuous: you've never drawn this kind of explicit material before.
It's a shame, because like I said, I really like your superhero stuff and want to support it. I also get the idea that it's your book and you'll do what you want; that's not the issue here. Just because you can do a thing doesn't mean you should, or that it's good for the story. I'm not asking you to pander to my every whim as a reader here; I'm asking you not to put this content in that is utterly repellent and is distracting from the story you want to tell. And at the end of the day, don't you want people to buy your book?
Gore is less repellent than 3 page sequence of a woman being blown across the room by a spray of semen and having male ejaculate drip from her vagina to her mouth...but that's my opinion. If we're going to have a discussion about "sex" in superhero comics, then let's get specific about what we're talking about. This isn't a panel of Dragon and Rapture taking a shower together or two people naked in a bed here. This is hardcore X-rated material. Giving this comic an "M" rating doesn't really cover it, because there doesn't seem to be anything mature or sophisticated about on-panel snowballing.
BTW, I have limits on gore as well; which is why I don't read Crossed.
Artists have to eat too, don't they?An artist whose creations are dictated by the number of sells is not a happy artist.
Which is fine Paulie, you're entitled to consume whatever media you want (excluding kiddie porn stuff). I hope I am entitled not to as well. Keep in mind, I'm only saying I can't support this, I'm not saying that nobody else should or that it should be banned.
[/QUOTE] Perhaps starving artists should consider such foul path of catering to the whims of the audience. Every other should create what the hell they like.[/QUOTE]
I believe Erik once said that he wouldn't keep making Savage Dragon if it turned out not to be profitable, so there's at least some monetary considerations there. And I'm assuming that he wants people to read his book, which is why he's publishing it through Image, instead of selling comics out of his garage.
But "catering to the whims of the audience"? Really? If I was demanding that Deadpool and Batman make guest star appearances or Maxine die that would be catering. An observation that a 3 page sex scene in a $3.99 book seems too much for me is an opinion. I mean, obviously CBR believes that somethings are too graphic, or else the would allow people to post scans of the scene and then we can all judge for ourselves, right?
Last edited by RumpusMagoo; 02-13-2018 at 03:16 AM.
There's some cultural truths in that.
I've had some time to think of this, and part of the problem is how these things are rated in comics. In movies there's a designation between R and NC 17 or NR. So when I saw the first Deadpool movie, it was violent and had sex stuff, but I didn't expect to see genitals or a full screen money shot (ala porn). But in comics, an M rating appears to cover all bases, from soft core cheesecake, to full frontal nudity and body fluids.
Actually, no one is entitled to consume kiddie porn in the United States. That stuff will get you jailed, put on the sex offender list, and socially ostracized.
By the way, was it really that scene alone that has gotten everyone riled up? Or do the other sex scenes bother people too?