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    Since there is a Gifted thread in this section.

    In DARK PHOENIX, the X-MEN face their most formidable and powerful foe: one of their own, Jean Grey. During a rescue mission in space, Jean is nearly killed when she is hit by a mysterious cosmic force. Once she returns home, this force not only makes her infinitely more powerful, but far more unstable. Wrestling with this entity inside her, Jean unleashes her powers in ways she can neither comprehend nor contain. With Jean spiraling out of control, and hurting the ones she loves most, she begins to unravel the very fabric that holds the X-Men together. Now, with this family falling apart, they must find a way to unite -- not only to save Jean's soul, but to save our very planet from aliens who wish to weaponize this force and rule the galaxy.
    Story sounds like an amalgamation of the two Phoenix stories in Claremont’s run. And after rereading the Phoenix arc I think I know who Jessica Chastain’s character is.

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    I think what has been shown to us so far, it does look DP is mirroring X-3, although I Hope not. There may be some parrallels, but I want them to be very minor and portrayed differently. I am looking for a new film, a new, better, accurate one based on the comic story this time!

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    I'm guessing that the Jessica Chastain character (Lilandra? Cassandra Nova?) plays a role similar to Mastermind in the original storyline; not so much the creating weird illusions (something the films already did with X2 anyway), but twisting Jean's mind somehow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisIII View Post
    I'm guessing that the Jessica Chastain character (Lilandra? Cassandra Nova?) plays a role similar to Mastermind in the original storyline; not so much the creating weird illusions (something the films already did with X2 anyway), but twisting Jean's mind somehow.
    Rumors say that she is a gray skrull-like shapeshifter. There is actually a character like that in the first Phoenix arc who was part of the Imperial Guard.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hobgob...mperial_Guard)

    So I’m guessing that Jessica’s character is someone D’Ken set to manipulate Jean to use to his own ends. Basically it’s the Phoenix Saga but they replaced the M'Kraan Crystal with the Phoenix Force as the macguffin.

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    Maybe Chastain is the Skrull Empress? She was shown in the DP Saga.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenixx9 View Post
    Maybe Chastain is the Skrull Empress? She was shown in the DP Saga.
    Doubt it. A Chameleoid seems more likely at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Shape View Post
    Rumors say that she is a gray skrull-like shapeshifter. There is actually a character like that in the first Phoenix arc who was part of the Imperial Guard.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hobgob...mperial_Guard)

    So I’m guessing that Jessica’s character is someone D’Ken set to manipulate Jean to use to his own ends. Basically it’s the Phoenix Saga but they replaced the M'Kraan Crystal with the Phoenix Force as the macguffin.
    Just a point of clarification that neither of those things are mcguffins

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJBopp View Post
    Just a point of clarification that neither of those things are mcguffins
    Seems to fit the definition of a macguffin.

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/MacGuffin

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Shape View Post
    Seems to fit the definition of a macguffin.

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/MacGuffin
    No because those things serve a purpose. The briefcase in Ronin was a mcguffin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJBopp View Post
    No because those things serve a purpose. The briefcase in Ronin was a mcguffin.
    Never seen Ronin but the filmmakers of Days of Future Past labeled Mystique as a macguffin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Shape View Post
    Never seen Ronin but the filmmakers of Days of Future Past labeled Mystique as a macguffin.
    In Ronin the entire plot was driven by several groups wanting a briefcase and its contents. We never knew what was in the case or why it was desired, or how anyone would gain from it. No plot point was resolved by taking possession of it, and none was unresolved by not having possession of it. It was a thing that served absolutely no purpose except to drive the story.

    That's the definition of a mcguffin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJBopp View Post
    In Ronin the entire plot was driven by several groups wanting a briefcase and its contents. We never knew what was in the case or why it was desired, or how anyone would gain from it. No plot point was resolved by taking possession of it, and none was unresolved by not having possession of it. It was a thing that served absolutely no purpose except to drive the story.

    That's the definition of a mcguffin.
    Two other notable examples are the briefcase from Pulp Fiction and the Maltese Falcon.

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    Plot Twist: Dark Phoenix is Pennywise in disguise.


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Shape View Post
    Plot Twist: Dark Phoenix is Pennywise in disguise.

    I don't really get the joke ya the lighting is kinda the same but other than that nothing......

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