STAR WARS The Last Jedi *SPOILERS!*

[AJBopp]

What does first run and second run mean?

It means the tickets are 2/3 less expensive if you wait about 4 weeks

[GammaRayThrill]

On another topic, what happened to that scene of Rey running across the sand with the blue lightsabre that we saw in so many trailers?

the issue here was how this person randomly knows how to use the force without any training. People thought that the easiest way to explain this was parents but it turns out that this wasnt the answer.

fans got trolled

[GammaRayThrill]

Anakin was supposed to be a prodigy and Rey is already at Knight level imo. It's stupid fast.

maybe Rey has a space dad mentor?

[David Walton]

I always felt like it was heavily impled that, between Empire and Jedi, Luke went back and completed his training with Yoda. Luke had his own lightsaber, had more force abilities, and went from not standing a chance against Vader to being close to an equal in their battle on the Death Star. And at best I think you would put Luke at the level of maybe a Jedi Knight. As powerful as Vader was, he was only a fraction of peak Anakin in Sith and Luke was never head and shoulders better than him. They were even until Luke lost it.

Luke didn't complete his training with Yoda, but it is heavily implied that he's continued to progress in his Jedi capabilities. I assume he had access to some materials on Jedi basics. I think the EU went into more detail about him building his own lightsaber. There was a book titled SHADOWS OF THE EMPIRE that covered the time between ESB and ROTJ nicely, but it's been forever since I read it.

Also Luke in the first film learned a little bit about how to be in tune and feel out the force. That manifested itself once with him aiming his missiles in the Death Star's shaft (that sounds suggestive). Even at the beginning of Empire he struggled after being with the Rebellion for at least a few years doing even remedial things like using the force to retrieve a lightsaber that was just out of reach.

Anakin was supposed to be a prodigy and Rey is already at Knight level imo. It's stupid fast.

I think maybe we'll get some kind of explanation as to why things have changed with regard to Force potential in Ep IX.

If not, then perhaps we just fill in the blanks with regard to Snoke's 'there has been an awakening.'

Luke does make it clear than Ben Solo's potential is stronger than anything he's ever seen until Rey, and that would include his experiences with Vader.

[Jackmando7]

It means the tickets are 2/3 less expensive if you wait about 4 weeks

Oh, I don't think that's the case at the theater by my place. I know its cheaper if you go on a Tuesday though.

[TheInvisibleMan]

Oh, I don't think that's the case at the theater by my place. I know its cheaper if you go on a Tuesday though.

Ive got a brand spanking new Cinemark 2.5 miles from my house - it was originally a Showcase Cinemas and was going to get renovated but then they decided to just tear it down and build new...they got the fancy lounge chairs and the kneewalls in front so you don't see the rows in front of you

its also called the Shag Palace

[Bossace]

Likewise, after reading Rian Johnson’s script for The Last Jedi, Hamill said, “I at one point had to say to Rian, ‘I pretty much fundamentally disagree with every choice you’ve made for this character. Now, having said that, I have gotten it off my chest, and my job now is to take what you’ve created and do my best to realize your vision.’ ”

This quote from vanity fair in may makes a lot more sense now

[Jackmando7]

Ive got a brand spanking new Cinemark 2.5 miles from my house - it was originally a Showcase Cinemas and was going to get renovated but then they decided to just tear it down and build new...they got the fancy lounge chairs and the kneewalls in front so you don't see the rows in front of you

its also called the Shag Palace

When you buy your ticket do you have to pick your seat at the ticket counter, or pick it online if youre per-ordering? I know their is another theater near me that does that, but I haven't gone to it.

[TheInvisibleMan]

Likewise, after reading Rian Johnson’s script for The Last Jedi, Hamill said, “I at one point had to say to Rian, ‘I pretty much fundamentally disagree with every choice you’ve made for this character. Now, having said that, I have gotten it off my chest, and my job now is to take what you’ve created and do my best to realize your vision.’ ”

This quote from vanity fair in may makes a lot more sense now

but also, he hasn't played the character in 30 years, so he doesn't have to fill that space

Rian and the writers do

When you buy your ticket do you have to pick your seat at the ticket counter, or pick it online if youre per-ordering? I know their is another theater near me that does that, but I haven't gone to it.

either/or

I tend to buy in advance, but if you walk up you pick as well - I know thats a fairly new concept here but theyve been doing it in theaters overseas FOREVER

[David Walton]

I tend to give a lot of weight to Mark Hamill's interpretation of Luke Skywalker.

I know he feels very strongly about certain things Luke wouldn't do, as he wasn't happy at all when they had him cutting the Wampa's arm off in ESB.

[BeastieRunner]

Honestly what I still struggle to believe in this whole movie was that escape pod plan. I mean the enemy had a few ships on them zooming in all over the place scanning them etc... and they couldn't notice a bunch of different "ships" leaving the main one without someone tipping them off of it?

Seems like an obvious thing to notice. And it can't be just that they're small. I mean once the FO found out it was hilariously easy to pick them off and aim/track them since despite how often they do it aiming technology in the SW universe isn't only manual. Even if the actual FO crew didn't notice it the SHIPS certainly should, especially with close monitoring.

They had a cloaking mechanism.

Exactly.

There’s even a meta narrative in the Last Jedi when Snoke screams at Kylo that he was defeated by a girl with no training.

That training is very important and while one can be force sensitive and utilize the force, you shouldn’t be able to defeat a trained force user in head to head combat. The force isn’t a mutant power, some people can just access it but accessing it fully and safely requires tons of training (hence why Anakin lost his hand and then his arm and legs against Count Dooku and then Obi-Wan).

Heck, even in A New Hope, Luke said he’d been shooting womprats back home, meaning he already had experience with making precise shots. Even at that, he still required the help of a force ghost to guide him in the use of the force.

Granted Kylo was injured before the battle with Rey but TFA treated the force like its some inherent super power. It isn’t (and that’s ignoring the midichlorian nonsense). Or at least it wasn’t because I can’t tell where Lucasfilm is going now with the franchise.

Luke said, "The Force isn't some organism." I'm taking that as they're retconning out the little bastards.

The First Order crew mentioned something about detecting the transports with a "de-cloaking scan." Seems like the transports either had cloaking devices or at least some serious ECM that made them very difficult to detect.

I think they said they were cloaked from scans.

hopefully she's smart enough to not be handcuffed to them

more guidelines that actual rules

Listening to Yoda and Luke tell it, it sounds more like that if you actually follow what's in the books, you'll be okay. It was the Jedi Order that fouled it up.

I tend to give a lot of weight to Mark Hamill's interpretation of Luke Skywalker.

I know he feels very strongly about certain things Luke wouldn't do, as he wasn't happy at all when they had him cutting the Wampa's arm off in ESB.

The script said he waves his saber to scare the Wampa away. And Mark was horrified when he saw the final film and he cut off the arm, because they filmed him scaring it.

[AnakinFlair]

I always felt like it was heavily impled that, between Empire and Jedi, Luke went back and completed his training with Yoda. Luke had his own lightsaber, had more force abilities, and went from not standing a chance against Vader to being close to an equal in their battle on the Death Star. And at best I think you would put Luke at the level of maybe a Jedi Knight. As powerful as Vader was, he was only a fraction of peak Anakin in Sith and Luke was never head and shoulders better than him. They were even until Luke lost it.

Also Luke in the first film learned a little bit about how to be in tune and feel out the force. That manifested itself once with him aiming his missiles in the Death Star's shaft (that sounds suggestive). Even at the beginning of Empire he struggled after being with the Rebellion for at least a few years doing even remedial things like using the force to retrieve a lightsaber that was just out of reach.

Anakin was supposed to be a prodigy and Rey is already at Knight level imo. It's stupid fast.

I don't know where you got that. When Luke goes back to Dagobah in RotJ, he tells Yoda that he's come back to complete his training. I've always took that as after Cloud City, he spent several months hunting down where Han Solo was (which I don't get- Jaba the Hutt wanted him, and Jaba was on Tatooine. Mystery solved.) and planning his rescue. And there is actually a cut scene tha was on the blu-ray that shows Luke building his lightsaber on Tatooine.

Remember, the general populace of the Republic wanted desperately to ignore the FO and their threat. Until it finally, literally, blew up in their collective faces in the Hosnian system. Nobody can ignore them now, but the fear of them might have kept the population in check. Not anymore.

I think my problem with that is that we were kinda told that in the opening crawl of TFA, but just one throw away sentence doesn't SHOW me that. In A New Hope, I instantly knew that there was an Empire, there was a Rebellion, and there was a civil war going on. In TFA, we find out that the Republic is back, and they are opposed by the First Order. But then there is this Resistance fighting the FO, which is not the Republic fleet, but a secondary unit that the Republic denies affiliation with... but that is backed up by the Republic fleet (until it's all destroyed)... and meanwhile what is the First Order ruling over in the first place? It's all so maddeningly vague and confusing and not well defined, which I know are the hallmarks of a JJ Abrams story.

[Jackmando7]

I saw the movie opening night, and the theater I saw it in was only like 70% full, was this the case for anyone else? I know several other (nicer) theaters around my place were sold out.

Rogue one: Couples were sitting on the stairs together because they couldn't get seats next to each other.

[AnakinFlair]

I tend to give a lot of weight to Mark Hamill's interpretation of Luke Skywalker.

I know he feels very strongly about certain things Luke wouldn't do, as he wasn't happy at all when they had him cutting the Wampa's arm off in ESB.

Wow, that makes that scene make SO much more sense. It always looked like he was just waving the lightsaber and not actually trying to injure the beast.

[Zero Hunter]

You know I think the 3rd act of this movie is what is giving so many people rosecollered glasses of how good it was. The first two acts were not that great and had some serious plot holes, but some seem to gloss over that because the 3rd act was strong. I just don't know how people can look over some of the really dumb things in this movie like:

Bombers that are slowest vehicles ever in any Star Wars movie
Hux being turned into a character out of a Mel Brooks movie
The casino
Snoke this bad ass monster could not feel Kylo using the force on the lightsaber
Fin being pretty much a throw away character in this movie
the slow motion spaceship chase
Leia being able to fly through space

Just so many dumb plot points. I didn't even have a problem with Luke or Rey's parents not being anyone, but there were just so many other plot points that were just flat out dumb.