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Since when Roy has problems with Jason's methods?
I want Red Hood solo, but not at the expense of Jason and Roy friendship.
I do. I long for solo Jason stories, or Jason's equivalent to Batman's stories.
Besides, if JoBlo is right, and they've been on the money lately, UtRH is going to be adapted within the next 5 years. What does that mean? What it usually means: the character will be reverted to a state similar to the version of the character in the movie.
This Rebirth is an easy way to do this to the DC characters, with the DCEU on the way.
They need to keep his friendships, tho. I wouldn't be surprised if his solo focused on his relationship with Talia.
Last edited by TooFlyToFail; 02-17-2016 at 11:08 AM.
Except that UTRH already happened and the aftermath of that story lead to the stagnation of Jason's character. He basically became a one note Bat villain who was hung up on his death and the fact that Bruce never avenged him by killing Joker. Nobody had a plan for him going forward, unless you want to count that nonsense about making him an evil, killer version of Nightwing, and so that lead to a succession of mediocre directions and stories that basically went nowhere. Frankly I have no desire to see that version of the character again or to repeat those types of stories either. I'd much rather they try to find a balance between who he was then and who he is now and that they have some kind of definitive direction they want to take him in. At least Lobdell went into this with a plan in mind and a clear idea of how to bet there, which is more then a lot of writers before him had.
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I'm not necessarily talking about that version coming back. I'm merely talking about going back to a one man act, or just having a solo, with a more serious tone to it.
Like his first arc could be him taking a contract on Professor Pyg, or something. The second arc could see him go mystical with Talia, and a third arc with him teaming up with Roy, or Dick.
While Lobdell did some interesting things, I don't feel his storytelling is all that strong. Same goes for his dialogue. I'd like to see a new writer take the helm. If I could have my way, it'd be Warren Ellis, or Brian Wood; their Moon Knight runs were heavily grounded, sure, but the storytelling, and dialogue, were leagues beyond what Lobdell does in his books.
Last edited by TooFlyToFail; 02-17-2016 at 11:52 AM.
Yeah I get what you`re saying. They won`t erase what Loedebll did since he expanded so much on the backstory but with UTRH being possibly adapted to the big screen, they may shift the tone of the storylines from action movie hero to a more serious direction.
Some of the themes handled by Loedbell were serious to me and I think he tried to inject some of his own (did the Joker chose Jason or not?) but there`s no doubt there are writers out there more fit to that type of storytelling. Loedbell´s fortč is about having fun with the themes, not so much the descontruction of them.
As long they don`t make the same mistakes that they did before with the post UTRH stories and maintain the healthy balance they seem to have going for the reboot, the tone shifting will seem natural as it is. Jason as a character is as fit with a small cast of teammates as he can be solo.
Last edited by Aioros22; 02-17-2016 at 11:56 AM.
Agreed, I want Jason back in the bat-comics but I think a series of him learning to accept what happened and mending his relationships with Dick/Tim/Damien/Barbara would be interesting - I liked in Death of the Family how Tim & Jason stayed friends as "outsiders" (cant remember exact wording) within the Bat-Family and I hope we get more integration, not this "I am the dark one of the family, all I ever do is argue with Nightwing and when I join the group for any reason I leave the team straight away after!"
I really thought after DOTF that DC were going in this direction this they screwed up by having Bruce only want Jason there to help him figure out how he came back to try and do the same to Damien
Solo stories would be nice but I don't want to see them all have a serious tone either. I like a bit of variety myself so I'd like the writer to mix up both the tone and the scope of the stories told. I'd also like to see a story once in a while that is basically Jason having a bit of downtime with other characters, like Roy or his brothers. There's not enough of that in my opinion.
Exactly. It's fine so long as they have some kind of plan for him and so long as it seems to be a natural direction for him to go in these days. Otherwise all they are doing is regressing the character and I don't think any fan of Jason Todd would want that.
I think that could be a very interesting story for a few issues anyway.
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Exactly. Keep all the development, but depict Jason's stories as more serious in tone, as well as more deconstructions of what a Batman, or Dick Grayson, story would be. To me, that's what Jason is supposed to represent; an argument to Batman's philosophy. In the Arkham Knight annual issue, Jason describes the world as not black and white, but full of different POVs. Jason's wasn't raised the way any of the other members of the Bat Family was; he wasn't raised with a set moral foundation, and has had to adjust it constantly. It allows him to poke holes into Bruce's philosophy. I'd like to see that explored more, without making him a villain.
Also. I've always had the impression that Jason is quite cerebral, under all the cynicism, and sarcasm. More thinking, planning, and manipulating (good, and bad, guys) Jason, rather than action Jason sometimes.
Maybe show that Jason being able to read people goes beyond just combat.
This can be done without making him a villain.