Really? We know the Wild Sentinels are Trasks’. Based on the context, I argue it had to be Bolivar’s. Nowhere — NOWHERE — in X-Men #14 through 17, and #57 through 59 does it indicate the government funded the development of Sentinels.
Also, you would need knowledge of Casandra’s crimes by the governments to hold them accountable.
There’s no indication in X-Men #14 through 17, or #57 through 59 that even the Trasks knew what Casandra Nova would do. They didn’t know. The Trasks are dead when Casandra does what she does. They didn’t support her. They’re not guilty.
Same with any government support, which there is no government support shown.
Casandra did it. She’s held accountable. There’s no one else to blame.
Ommadon: “By summoning all the dark powers I will infest the spirit of man So that he uses his science and logic to destroy himself. Greed and avarice shall prevail, and those who do not hear my words shall pay the price. I'll teach man to use his machines, I'll show him what distorted science can give birth to. I'll teach him to fly like a fairy, and I'll give him the ultimate answer to all his science can ask. And the world will be free for my magic again.”
Ommadon: “By summoning all the dark powers I will infest the spirit of man So that he uses his science and logic to destroy himself. Greed and avarice shall prevail, and those who do not hear my words shall pay the price. I'll teach man to use his machines, I'll show him what distorted science can give birth to. I'll teach him to fly like a fairy, and I'll give him the ultimate answer to all his science can ask. And the world will be free for my magic again.”
I think more so than the “X-Men” have broken bad it’s that Charles has broken bad, which is obviously a huge problem because he’s in charge. I’m assuming the Council doesn’t approve all of X-Force’s actions because otherwise Emma would have known what was going on.
I make that distinction because I think X-Men #21 did a great job juxtaposing Charles and Magneto’s more nefarious intentions, with the reveal of the new team showing that many mutants do still believe in the dream and don’t have any ulterior motives and just want to be safe and proud.
The real question (and what I’m most looking forward to seeing) is: What is the way forward? Will the hubris of some doom everyone to going back to being hunted, hated, and feared or will the X-Men find a middle path?
When people are tried for war crimes, the people who commit the crimes are tried and hopefully convicted. The guy who built the gun is not tried, unless he participated in the planning of the crime.
In this case, Genosha, no nation state was involved in the planning or execution. Also, the guys who built the gun, the Trasks, are dead.
Yes, Casandra did it. She’s the guilty one. There’s no other government involved.
On the other hand, X-Force basically is Krakoa’s military. What went down in Terra Verde is Krakoan government policy.
If Xavier, Magneto, Beast and Jean were dead, there maybe an out for the Krakoan government. Otherwise, there are people who can and ought to be held accountable for what they did in Terra Verde. The Terra Verdean massacre, unintentional or not, has a return address on Krakoa.
With Genosha, Casandra is gone. The Trasks are dead. There’s no nation to blame.
Ommadon: “By summoning all the dark powers I will infest the spirit of man So that he uses his science and logic to destroy himself. Greed and avarice shall prevail, and those who do not hear my words shall pay the price. I'll teach man to use his machines, I'll show him what distorted science can give birth to. I'll teach him to fly like a fairy, and I'll give him the ultimate answer to all his science can ask. And the world will be free for my magic again.”
Casandra says the Trasks built it, who are, you know, dead. Maybe they can try them and convict them even though they’re dead.
Besides all of that, having a genocide perpetrated on your people doesn’t give a nation a free pass to commit genocide against some other country that had nothing to do with it 10 years later.
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Ommadon: “By summoning all the dark powers I will infest the spirit of man So that he uses his science and logic to destroy himself. Greed and avarice shall prevail, and those who do not hear my words shall pay the price. I'll teach man to use his machines, I'll show him what distorted science can give birth to. I'll teach him to fly like a fairy, and I'll give him the ultimate answer to all his science can ask. And the world will be free for my magic again.”
Casandra Nova is not a trustworthy witness. Read X-Men #14 to 17, and #57 to 59. The Trask Sentinels are portrayed as something the Trasks built, not the US government. Even if she’s telling the truth, which is doubtful, members of the US government were not involved in Casandra’s decision to pull the trigger.
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Ommadon: “By summoning all the dark powers I will infest the spirit of man So that he uses his science and logic to destroy himself. Greed and avarice shall prevail, and those who do not hear my words shall pay the price. I'll teach man to use his machines, I'll show him what distorted science can give birth to. I'll teach him to fly like a fairy, and I'll give him the ultimate answer to all his science can ask. And the world will be free for my magic again.”
Okay then, let us say she is telling the truth. Enough with head canon.
Cite me a historical precedent in which the builder of a weapon or armament was tried for crimes against humanity in an internationally recognized court of law following a genocide, when that arms or munitions manufacturer played no part whatsoever in the decision to use the weapon.
I’m done with your opinion or mine. Find me a real-life example. I’ll be waiting.
Ommadon: “By summoning all the dark powers I will infest the spirit of man So that he uses his science and logic to destroy himself. Greed and avarice shall prevail, and those who do not hear my words shall pay the price. I'll teach man to use his machines, I'll show him what distorted science can give birth to. I'll teach him to fly like a fairy, and I'll give him the ultimate answer to all his science can ask. And the world will be free for my magic again.”