They have no reason to care, at all, I know I wouldn't, id just mind my business and get ready to move the island to mars once it was time to create a larger distance
My money is the use of the trope "well will unite our forces to combat this threat and leave as friends"...which, to be honest, and this is just my feelings on it, I don' want Hero V Hero at the end but I don't want them leaving as friends either. Let Baby Frankie have his powers again so he can stop whining, have him make the choice of family or species, have Sue tell Magneto where he can shove it one more time because he deserves it, have Reed tell Xavier he doesn't trust him and let the other characters do whatever and just end the damn thing.
I agree Marvel needs do more of the por mutants side in all its lines, but you're omitting the fact that not every human outside the X-line is a mutant bigot. Mutants and mutant bigotry isn't a subject which comes up in most titles not because they don't have opinions on it but because the whole Marvel universe has more themes to explore in their corners then mutantkind's struggles. Which comes out not because the characters are apathetic to the mutant cause, its due to other concerns in the creative and marketing process.
And it's comics. Drama is exaggerated otherwise it'd get boring, that's inherent to the super-hero genre.
Comics and fandom do reflect what's going on in America, however, they're not 1=1. That something is a metaphor for something isn't always an example that you're meant to not question it or that it's right all the time. X-fandom has been bitter since forever, too.Which brings me to your earlier point: It’s not the bitterness in comics that is the problem. The problem is what that bitterness reflects. It’s not that I’m ‘vested’ in the comics. It’s that the bitterness in the fandom and the general s*****ness of mankind on display in America right now is so clearly reflected in the presentation of humanity in comics, and it’s impossible to miss, for me.
Which is why I think Hickman went with this depiction to be relevant today. We've had numerous comics to get the gist of Krakoa and various characters actions and opinions on the current status quo, it's far from a blank slate. Someone having a different perspective is not necessarily bad, sometimes different perspectives are needed to point out flaws we missed.Right now, the idea of an oppressed minority uniting and coming together to build a nation for themselves - mistakes and all - has relevance and meaning for a lot of people. Just like seeing Captain America go after the German American Bund and war profiteers when he wasn’t allowed to go after Nazis had relevance and meaning for a lot of people, then. Seeing Krakoa I ironically called some of the things it gets called in and out of universe before it even really has had a chance to show us what it is? That pisses some folks - myself included - off, and makes us wonder what comics the rest of you have been reading that your perspectives are SO different. It makes people wonder how people might feel if ACTUAL minorities stepped up and united and said ‘no more’. It speaks to the concept of privilege. It reflects the way people spoke about REAL minorities rising up and not accepting scraps or targeted violence anymore. It reflects poorly on the REAL world.
While reading comics do reflect political meanings its not a good idea to go too hard to judging people based on their reactions to super-heroes who fight super-villains. The X-men aren't real minorities and had they been real none of us would be able to join them on Krakoa. Don't assume because we have issues with Krakoa that it's identical to what we think about minorities in the real world. Marvel isn't the real world, it's a fictional reflection of it. It's ok for people not to agree about everything, don't take it personally. It's comic books.
Except you're blinding yourself to the problematic aspects of that same mutant nation. It being a metaphor in fiction isn't an excuse to not ask questions in the setting or look at how things are created by the writers and editors.I enjoy the escapism of beautiful people in tights fighting giant men in purple skirts as much as anyone! I’m just not blind to the problematic way a LOT of people, real and fictional, are reacting to this era of mutant history, ESPECIALLY given the well known metaphor mutants have represented since their inception.
Not even just pointed towards the X-Men alone but even when it comes to company crossovers, it basically had a plot point in which it compared the citizens of the DCU and the MU in which it presented that while the DCU citizens look up to and love the heroes, the citizens of the MU are basically ungrateful bastards. Which kinda becomes a bit ironic that, they’re ungrateful in the present but give them a future like Old Man Logan and suddenly they realize what they’ve lost to the point of flocking around Thor’s hammer hoping that the heroes return from the dead like they used to.
There hasn't been any valid arguments against the x-men, mutants or Krakoa since HoXPoX, history speaks soundly for what is happening.
They have every right.
It matters because they are the X-Men, they are not supposed to be this morally-corrupted crowd. We'd expect that from the Acolytes or the Brotherhood - not from the X-Men.
Trying to lure away Franklin - a minor! - from his parents is disgusting.
Trying to sell their ideology to him is also disgusting.
A top to Bottom mistake you wouldn't expect from the likes of Xavier and co.
Franklin wasn't in danger with his family.
He wasn't mistreated, in fact he was cared for and loved and supported in every possible way by his parents.
He's the epitome of privileged actually.
The X-Men had no Reason to immisce themselves into their Relationship beyond the very selfish, very obvious powergrab attempt to add another Omega-level mutant to their population.
Greedyness is what drove them, and it's not supposed to be what drives them to action, compassion is…
If they weren't involved with the direction Krakoa is currently taking, no one would be questionning what's happening on that island, but unfortunately they are actively involved in the direction Krakoa is currently taking, so they face scrutiny as a result.
Crucible, Hellions, trying to lure Franklin away from his family here…
Maybe Hickman is narrating the story of their moral downfall, in which case this story drives the point home perfectly. If not? Then it's a blow to whatever he's trying to tell at this point.
"The means are as important as the end - we have to do this right or not at all.
Anything less negates every belief we've ever had, every sacrifice we've ever made."
"Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely."
"No justice, no peace."
The characterization really took me out of this issue.
That's already been disproved. There's never just one true path to the future or futures as we've seen. The current iteration of the multiverse exists only because of 4 humans who are not mutants.... Doom for pursuing a different line of investigation leading to the cause of the incursions and the grand experiment of the Beyonders to erase everything. Doom employed the Mad Thinker to trace back the path of the Map Makers that were part of the incursion over Latveria. This lead them to Owen Reece who provided the information about the Beyonders and how to defeat their plan. Reed was the one that took over after Doom was defeated and was once again Owen Reece was part of the process to help direct Franklin's Omega mutant powers to recreate the multiverse.
And the reason those same humans didn’t lose their future to the homo novissima is because Moira saved them. Anyways, here’s scans from POX 6 that not only show mutants are the next step in evolution, but there is are nine definitive futures that happened before getting reset.
I love Powers of X shutting down arguments.