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[Frontier]

Actually Constantine didn't do it, Doctor Fate did.

Welp, that's ironic from a YJ standpoint.

[Jabare]

I told you Joker was going to be in this. He's one of the bosses if not the Boss

[sifighter]

I told you Joker was going to be in this. He's one of the bosses if not the Boss

Revenge for Batman Bloodstorm I guess.

[Zee_Fan]

It seemed more like Constantine just wanted Zee not to kill anyone, he seemed pretty pretty upset with Fate when he set Zatanna Ablaze

True. He wasn't happy about it, but he still helped.

Bummer, I was digging Vampire Zee. Was hoping she'd play a bigger role.

[Lal]

I told you Joker was going to be in this. He's one of the bosses if not the Boss

Seems very likely the big bad is a Gotham character, and the entire "leave the bats alone" order that the vampires received in the previous issue further suggests so.
Personally, so far I think Nightwing is the most suspicious of the characters, and he's definitely capable enough to pass Batman's tests.

[Vordan]

Either the Joker card is a red herring or it’s him as the King. This story is just getting more and more boring and cliche. Can’t believe I’m saying this but Taylor deserves some credit for killing Batman off right away in DCeased, DC vs. Vampires is unfolding exactly how you would expect these stories to.

[Jabare]

Seems very likely the big bad is a Gotham character, and the entire "leave the bats alone" order that the vampires received in the previous issue further suggests so.
Personally, so far I think Nightwing is the most suspicious of the characters, and he's definitely capable enough to pass Batman's tests.

No DC would never let Dick one up Batman like that. How dumb would Batman be if he didn't notice Nightwing was a vampire

[Johnny]

No DC would never let Dick one up Batman like that. How dumb would Batman be if he didn't notice Nightwing was a vampire

If they had Hal one up Wonder Woman, would they really be that opposed to Dick doing that to Batman. At least here they can have the excuse of Bruce being one upped by someone who knows him better than anyone else and whom he trust more than anyone else. He would be duped by someone he sees as a son, not only a partner or fellow superhero.

[Vordan]

If they had Hal one up Wonder Woman, would they really be that opposed to Dick doing that to Batman. At least here they can have the excuse of Bruce being one upped by someone who knows him better than anyone else and whom he trust more than anyone else. He would be duped by someone he sees as a son, not only a partner or fellow superhero.

Did you miss James Gunn talking about how WB was ok with him making fun of everyone but Batman? DC goes out of their way to protect Batman.

[Jabare]

If they had Hal one up Wonder Woman, would they really be that opposed to Dick doing that to Batman. At least here they can have the excuse of Bruce being one upped by someone who knows him better than anyone else and whom he trust more than anyone else. He would be duped by someone he sees as a son, not only a partner or fellow superhero.

How is that the same? Batman is on a different level than Wonder Woman. They don't do that in the current meta.

Batman can get one-upped by the Big bad like the Joker or the ultimate mastermind in service of a story, but that doesn't happen to him by a peer or secondary character when he's the lead. Dick hasn't been on Bruce's level for over ten years now. (excluding the Titans show or Young Justice). At best he's an equal or someone Bruce passes the torch to. (At best.)

The only time you'd see that happen is if Bruce is guest-starring in someone else's title. And I'm struggling to think of an example outside of Wonder Woman: The Hiketeia.

Did you miss James Gunn talking about how WB was ok with him making fun of everyone but Batman? DC goes out of their way to protect Batman.

This. From a corporate perspective, Batman is DC's most valuable property. Now DC isn't inflexible. That doesn't mean he has to be infallible or can't be in crisis, but certain things don't happen to Batman. They've got to maintain a certain mystique. DC can have fun with him like in Lego Batman or the Harley Quinn show, but even then, they don't let the creatives do everything with Batman.

[j9ac9k]

This. From a corporate perspective, Batman is DC's most valuable property. Now DC isn't inflexible. That doesn't mean he has to be infallible or can't be in crisis, but certain things don't happen to Batman. They've got to maintain a certain mystique. DC can have fun with him like in Lego Batman or the Harley Quinn show, but even then, they don't let the creatives do everything with Batman.

From what I read, I think they had a problem with the "Batman's a P***y" speech, but that made it through - I don't think they made him take anything out.

[Jabare]

From what I read, I think they had a problem with the "Batman's a P***y" speech, but that made it through - I don't think they made him take anything out.

no there was suppose to be a scene with Batman performing an act on Catwoman and DC said no to that

https://www.vulture.com/2021/06/batm...n-dc-says.html

https://www.denofgeek.com/tv/batman-...ban-reactions/

https://www.vice.com/en/article/qj8j...-pussy-dc-says

https://www.themarysue.com/dc-batman-oral-sex-cmon-now/

https://www.scarymommy.com/batman-ap...ings-about-it/

https://www.buzzfeed.com/alliehayes/...sh-lover-jokes

https://www.denofgeek.com/tv/zack-sn...sex-discourse/

[j9ac9k]

no there was suppose to be a scene with Batman performing an act on Catwoman and DC said no to that

Right. Sorry, I was more responding to the "Peacemaker" scene.

[silly]

I think Constantine will be the one to save the day.

But then, there's Batman.

[Claude]

There's something off with Nightwing and Batgirl, probably just the writing but I've had the feeling that one of them is turned and is playing a long game.

Schmidt's going all out on drawing Barbara with suspicious expressions and Vampire Body Language - that super-cool and sensual thing all the vampires get - so I'd love that to be a red herring. Barbara's just in an odd mood or drunk or something, and Dick is King Vampire.

This is twelve issues, right? A mid-point twist of Vampire Nightwing revealing his hand and killing Bruce would get a lot of press, I'm sure - and help with some of the Batgoddery that this series seems to be leaning into a little. But then, that's my favouritism showing.