Characters not been placed in books

[Knightpryde]

Where did you see the info about Syrin and Monet?

On a groupchat , it's not a " team" but I don't even know if it's true but I think it is becuase the other information concerning the eriters was true but obviously we don't know for sure

[Factor]

On a groupchat , it's not a " team" but I don't even know if it's true but I think it is becuase the other information concerning the eriters was true but obviously we don't know for sure

I mean, we know both are likely to appear in UXM, but this is the first I hear that they're supposed to be a sub-team. Syrin is currently a captive at the mansion. Monet was rumored to join the main team.

[ChronoRogue]

It’s weird how Brevoort keeps saying how the X-men lack black men, but then proceeds to add only 1 such character in 6 of the announced books. There are more blond white guys in one title than there are black men in the entire line.
And it’s not like there aren’t options. Synch, Bishop, Sunspot, Manifold, Gentle, Bedlam, Maggot…
I get that the line-ups can get more diverse as time goes by, but it’s telling how these characters are not being included from the start while even Glob has a confirmed role.
To me it’s inexcusable that Synch, Bishop and Sunspot don’t have prominent roles so far. I hope I’m proven wrong and they’re part of the last 3 secret books from the first wave, but I’m not holding my breath.

(And yes, I know Brevoort said that Bishop is not appearing initially because he thinks AU time traveler characters are too contrived to start the line with, but that doesn’t make any sense in the context of X-men ‘97 reintroducing such concepts and characters to a huge audience. Plus he had no problem having Rachel and Kwannon on teams, so there’s a clear double standard at play.)

Despite my earlier comment, I do agree that this is a major issue. Lots of POC characters are underdeveloped and not given story arcs or beats in the X-Men outside of Storm, which even she has struggled outside of Ewing and Claremont, which then they get overlooked by future writers as a cycle of constant limbo and apathy.

Wish they would push strong POC characters as hard as they do Magneto or the amount of attention the villains on Krakoa got... the allegorical metaphor seems silly without the actual IRL representation to match that message. Holding out hope we see Sunspot, Rictor, Shola, Wiz-Kid, Sunfire, or other "diamond in the rough" characters picked up by the right writers.

[KurtW95]

I hope a lot of characters aren't used because the only possibility of using characters now is to destroy them with bad writers and editors.

[Galen Nycroft]

(And yes, I know Brevoort said that Bishop is not appearing initially because he thinks AU time traveler characters are too contrived to start the line with, but that doesn’t make any sense in the context of X-men ‘97 reintroducing such concepts and characters to a huge audience. Plus he had no problem having Rachel and Kwannon on teams, so there’s a clear double standard at play.)

I think a big problem with Bishop is that editors and writers forget that he has actual powers. He is relegated to just a big guy with a gun, same for Cable. I hope that one day someone explores Bishops actual mutant gifts. Both characters are more interesting than the "soldier from the future" meatsticks they are often portrayed as.

This far in, Bishop is no longer a time displaced man on a mission, and is now firmly placed within the 616 main timeline. He's done other things outside of his initial introductions, so they don't need to focus on his complicated introduction.

Have to call BS on Brevoort's talking point here.

[KurtW95]

People don't even know what race he is. He was clearly meant to be black (of SSA descent), but then he was retconned to be Aboriginal, who look very different and how he isn't drawn.

[Factor]

I agree that Bishop is underestimated by editorial. I would love if they focused on his powers more. I grew up with X-treme X-men, so it’s quite jarring to see how much he’s been demoted.
I think Brevoort is letting his pet peeve against AU characters affect Cable and Bishop’s chances.
It’s not like they need to reestablish their entire backstory in their first appearances in the new era. Anyone interested in reading X-comics probably knows about them by now anyway, especially after the animated series.
And his reasoning for dismissing Bishop and Cable doesn’t make any sense when characters with similarly complicated backgrounds get to appear from the start.
I’m seeing a lot of double standards, like Storm needing to leave the X-teams to get a solo when Wolverine gets to keep both.

[danielsan52]

X-Men:

Iceman
Polaris
Changeling/Morph
Mimic
Petra
Sway
Vulcan
Darwin
Banshee
Thunderbird
Sunfire
Colossus
Dazzler
Longshot
Bishop
Cable
Stacy-X
Lifeguard
Slipstream
Marrow
Maggott
Wraith
Omertà
Forget-Me-Not
Sunpyre
Omega
Northstar
Pyro II
Firestar
Synch
Xorn
Zorn
Woofer



New Mutants:
Mirage
Karma
Wolfsbane
Cannonball
Sunspot
Cypher
Magma
Bird-Boy
Gossamyr
Rictor
Boom Boom
Skids
Firefist
-Hellions:
--all

X-Factor:
Multiple Man
Wild Child
Caliban

Excalibur:
Brian & Meggan Braddock
Cerise
Kylun
Micromax
Pete Wisdom
Blood Moon
Black Knight
Captain Avalon
Daytripper
Douglock(?)
Feron
Nocturne


Generation X:
Synch
Mondo
Skin
Husk
Gaia
Chamber
M
Hollow(?)
M-Twins
Artie
Leech

[Marvell2100]

It’s weird how Brevoort keeps saying how the X-men lack black men, but then proceeds to add only 1 such character in 6 of the announced books. There are more blond white guys in one title than there are black men in the entire line.
And it’s not like there aren’t options. Synch, Bishop, Sunspot, Manifold, Gentle, Bedlam, Maggot…
I get that the line-ups can get more diverse as time goes by, but it’s telling how these characters are not being included from the start while even Glob has a confirmed role.
To me it’s inexcusable that Synch, Bishop and Sunspot don’t have prominent roles so far. I hope I’m proven wrong and they’re part of the last 3 secret books from the first wave, but I’m not holding my breath.

(And yes, I know Brevoort said that Bishop is not appearing initially because he thinks AU time traveler characters are too contrived to start the line with, but that doesn’t make any sense in the context of X-men ‘97 reintroducing such concepts and characters to a huge audience. Plus he had no problem having Rachel and Kwannon on teams, so there’s a clear double standard at play.)

And yet Rachel is on a team in the beginning of the relaunch.

[Joscip]

This Colossus erasure will not stand.

I hope so!

[Jackraow21]

We know Colossus appears in the Capullo book at least.

[Factor]

And yet Rachel is on a team in the beginning of the relaunch.

Yes, it makes no sense at all. Just another excuse to not feature certain characters.

[Will Evans]

X-Men:

Changeling/Morph
Mimic
Petra
Sway
Darwin
Banshee
Thunderbird
Sunfire
Colossus
Stacy-X
Lifeguard
Slipstream
Dr. Reyes
Marrow
Maggott
Omega

New Mutants:
Karma
Rictor
Cannonball
Sunspot
Boom Boom
Skids
Firefist
Magma
-Hellions:
--all


Generation X:
-all

I keep forgetting about Petra and Sway. Also where is Vulcan?
There are more New Mutants not here.

Generation X: Jubilee is on a team.

[danielsan52]

I keep forgetting about Petra and Sway. Also where is Vulcan?
There are more New Mutants not here.

Generation X: Jubilee is on a team.

That's right, ty

[Dipter]

So do you guys think Rasputin IV will be killed off before From the Ashes starts? I hope not...