Avengers Academy SPOILERS for Marvel's Voices Infinity Comic #100

[Morgoth]

Reptil had the mini, Raptor is a different character. Hazmat is a full Avenger now as of the Blood Hunt. Mettle is still dead. Finesse went bad for a bit but i believe is back to good now. Striker has appeared at a few Pride events here and there. Am i missing anyone from the main cast?

Damn, sorry, for some reason I always confuse these names.

[the illustrious mr. kenway]

Is that j2 from spider-girl in a canon story?

Who is the kid captain america?

https://www.marvel.com/articles/comi...-aaron-fischer

Aaron Fischer debuted in the United States of Captain America miniseries.

[Lonewolf36]

Is that j2 from spider-girl in a canon story?

Who is the kid captain america?

Not J2 but Kid Juggernaut https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Jin_J...ng_(Earth-616)

[Dermie]

Is that j2 from spider-girl in a canon story?

No, this is a new character named Justin Jin. He is the descendant of a previous incarnation of the Juggernaut who appeared back in NEW EXCALIBUR.

Who is the kid captain america?

Aaron Fischer, the Captain America of the Railways. He was introduced a new years ago in the UNITED STATES OF CAPTAIN AMERICA miniseries and has turned up several times since then.

[Digifiend]

Reptil had the mini, Raptor is a different character. Hazmat is a full Avenger now as of the Blood Hunt. Mettle is still dead. Finesse went bad for a bit but i believe is back to good now. Striker has appeared at a few Pride events here and there. Am i missing anyone from the main cast?

Yeah, Veil. She hasn't been seen since Avengers Academy finished, having ended the book depowered.

You're right about Finesse, she started the second Unstoppable Wasp volume as a member of AIM, but defected to GIRL, Nadia's team, by the end of that series.

[mugiwara]

A recently, she appeared as a second rate villain to be defeated by the new Punisher.
I swear, the way Marvel treats those Academy kids is disgusting.

[The Cool Thatguy]

A recently, she appeared as a second rate villain to be defeated by the new Punisher.
I swear, the way Marvel treats those Academy kids is disgusting.

Finesse's treatment in Wasp was especially odd.

The writer took pains to make us empathize with Nadia's bi-polar issues, yet treated Finesse as an outright sociopath, even though Avengers Academy...took pains to emphasize that Finesse was not a sociopath. That while she was not demonstrative in her emotions, she very much had them (to the point of attacking freakin' Magneto because he was mean to Quicksilver).

[ARkadelphia]

Reptil had the mini, Raptor is a different character. Hazmat is a full Avenger now as of the Blood Hunt. Mettle is still dead. Finesse went bad for a bit but i believe is back to good now. Striker has appeared at a few Pride events here and there. Am i missing anyone from the main cast?

Veil. She was cured. I’m assuming she’s living a non superhero life now, but I’m not 100% sure.

[Sutekh]

Finesse's treatment in Wasp was especially odd.

The writer took pains to make us empathize with Nadia's bi-polar issues, yet treated Finesse as an outright sociopath, even though Avengers Academy...took pains to emphasize that Finesse was not a sociopath. That while she was not demonstrative in her emotions, she very much had them (to the point of attacking freakin' Magneto because he was mean to Quicksilver).

Yeah, Finesse has been written pretty terribly. Even in her first appearance, she rather quickly devolved from a unique 'super polymath' capable of picking up new languages, scientific disciplines, etc. super-fast, and focused on getting with getting as much knowledge and skill crammed into her brain as possible (and yes, some borderline sociopathic / emotional accessibility / diminished affect tendencies, but lacking the sort of malignant narcissism that makes such folk BAD), to some sort of third-rate Taskmaster knockoff with mimic-reflexes and memory issues. Huge freaking downgrade from complex and fascinating character to cheap knock-off of somebody whose power was to BE a cheap knock-off (so it's not even an *original* joke, but like the character equivalent of a 'make like a tree and... get out of here!' joke.).

[Frontier]

Finesse's treatment in Wasp was especially odd.

The writer took pains to make us empathize with Nadia's bi-polar issues, yet treated Finesse as an outright sociopath, even though Avengers Academy...took pains to emphasize that Finesse was not a sociopath. That while she was not demonstrative in her emotions, she very much had them (to the point of attacking freakin' Magneto because he was mean to Quicksilver).

I also didn't like how all the other villain girls were "look, we're actually good guys!" like let us have some genuine teen girl villains.

[The Cool Thatguy]

I also didn't like how all the other villain girls were "look, we're actually good guys!" like let us have some genuine teen girl villains.

Minus Finesse, yeah I agree on that too.

[Dreaded Porcupine]

Since Avengers Academy has reopened who would you like to see sign up?

Boulder “Butterball” and Batwing.

[Lonewolf36]

Well since i started the thread i should list my candidates.

Ties to the Avengers

Coldmoon https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Wanxia_(Earth-616)
Dragonfire https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Zaoxing_(Earth-616)
Good Voice https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Zamira_(Earth-616)
Sapheara https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Saman...ll_(Earth-616)
Teen Abomination https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Jamie...on_(Earth-616)

Other possibilities

Amulet https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Fadi_...ah_(Earth-616)
Ape X https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Roy_Reyna_(Earth-616)
Chipmunk Hunk https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Tomas...ez_(Earth-616)
Darkhawk https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Connor_Young_(Earth-616)
Demona https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Demon...om_(Earth-616)
Glyph https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Nadee...an_(Earth-616)
Koi Boi https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Ken_Shiga_(Earth-616)
Marvel Boy https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/David...nk_(Earth-616)
Melee https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Melee_(Earth-616)
Positron https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Posit...ie)_(Earth-616)
Red Hornet https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Melin...gh_(Earth-616)
Red Ronin https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Red_R...DX)_(Earth-616)
Starling https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Tiana_Toomes_(Earth-616)

[mugiwara]

I enjoy them showcasing Native American, Hispanic and black characters that wouldn't be appearing elsewhere.

I see them as virtue signaling as its worst.
"Look all the diverse characters we have! What? Give them a solo? Put them in the Avengers? Make them relevant in the next event? Oh no no no, we'll only use them once or twice a year in an inconsequential one shot to pretend we care about them."
And the fact some characters only appear in Marvel Voices reduces them to an identity, while there is be more to White Tiger than being a latina, or to Striker than being gay.

It can be argued that it's still better than nothing. But showing off Noh Varr or Moondragon in MV after they were removed from the GoG line-up for the sake of synergy comes off as hypocritical to me.

[Factor]

I see them as virtue signaling as its worst.
"Look all the diverse characters we have! What? Give them a solo? Put them in the Avengers? Make them relevant in the next event? Oh no no no, we'll only use them once or twice a year in an inconsequential one shot to pretend we care about them."
And the fact some characters only appear in Marvel Voices reduces them to an identity, while there is be more to White Tiger than being a latina, or to Striker than being gay.

It can be argued that it's still better than nothing. But showing off Noh Varr or Moondragon in MV after they were removed from the GoG line-up for the sake of synergy comes off as hypocritical to me.

Totally agreed. I’d much rather have these characters get real roles and spotlights than six page stories with zero relevance to the rest of the line. Characters like White Tiger were actually doing much better before Marvel Voices than now. It’s like most efforts to showcase diverse characters end up having to fit this particular mold instead of getting a true push.