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    Franklin went with Val to Krakoa because he was curious to know it, he wasn´t kidnapped, all the X-men did here,(despite being written very OOC to force the traditional super hero battle) was to give Franklin an invitation to Krakoa.

    This is one of those situations in which I wanted to get in the story but could not help but notice the spiteful way Dan Slott was writting the X-men, he simply didn´t like Krakoa´s take, wrote the X-men as if they were Kree seeking genetic purity and tried to make the FF4 sympathetic but this just made me dislike their holier than you actitude. I hate it when guest stars are written OOC just to make the protagonist look better in comparision, just because the writer doesn´t currently likes the characters or to force drama. The X-men adopted Franklin when Onslaught took his parents and were happy to give him back to them when they came back but acording to this they kindap kids le sigh
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    This week's newsletter:
    https://tombrevoort.substack.com/p/1...could-be-worth

    There's quite a few X-related questions so probably best to just check out the article directly. But here's the opener with some tidbits.

    Tom: So it was a big week in the world of X as we let a bunch of details out about a couple of things that he hadn’t really much even teased before now: Storm joining the Avengers as well as headlining her own solo series, and Dazzler getting a limited series all her own. And this is still just the tip of the iceberg—there are still a couple of first wave X-Projects to be announced, and then we’ll be moving directly into the second wave and third wave stuff. It’s not that far off now before these books begin to start coming out in earnest—our next element to be visible to the public will be the epilogue portion of UNCANNY X-MEN #700, the final issue worked on by the outgoing teams. They very kindly gave us some space in the end to pick up the baton from where they’d left it and to begin to lay out where any number of the pieces are going to end up in our new world order. I spent a portion of this past week with my team polishing the lettering on both X-MEN #1 and UNCANNY X-MEN #1, so both will be coming your way before you know it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JB View Post
    This week's newsletter:
    https://tombrevoort.substack.com/p/1...could-be-worth

    There's quite a few X-related questions so probably best to just check out the article directly. But here's the opener with some tidbits.

    Tom: So it was a big week in the world of X as we let a bunch of details out about a couple of things that he hadn’t really much even teased before now: Storm joining the Avengers as well as headlining her own solo series, and Dazzler getting a limited series all her own. And this is still just the tip of the iceberg—there are still a couple of first wave X-Projects to be announced, and then we’ll be moving directly into the second wave and third wave stuff. It’s not that far off now before these books begin to start coming out in earnest—our next element to be visible to the public will be the epilogue portion of UNCANNY X-MEN #700, the final issue worked on by the outgoing teams. They very kindly gave us some space in the end to pick up the baton from where they’d left it and to begin to lay out where any number of the pieces are going to end up in our new world order. I spent a portion of this past week with my team polishing the lettering on both X-MEN #1 and UNCANNY X-MEN #1, so both will be coming your way before you know it.
    I’ve already read it and it’s good they drop throuple stuff. It’s never been so serious and it was more like a queerbaiting than a canon. But I’ll be honest. X-men fans are a reason why X-men sucks at sexuality diversity. They prefer their headcanon ships like Logan/Scott to the real queer characters and then they are surprised and mad because there is no diversity. Sorry but if X-men fans prefer to support headcanons over canons it’s their fault not writers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Braxxer View Post
    I’ve already read it and it’s good they drop throuple stuff. It’s never been so serious and it was more like a queerbaiting than a canon. But I’ll be honest. X-men fans are a reason why X-men sucks at sexuality diversity. They prefer their headcanon ships like Logan/Scott to the real queer characters and then they are surprised and mad because there is no diversity. Sorry but if X-men fans prefer to support headcanons over canons it’s their fault not writers
    I think that’s a huge oversimplification and generalization of what is a very large fandom, with a diverse range of opinions. Also fandoms tend to lean into headcanons harder when they’re given scraps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Braxxer View Post
    I’ve already read it and it’s good they drop throuple stuff. It’s never been so serious and it was more like a queerbaiting than a canon. But I’ll be honest. X-men fans are a reason why X-men sucks at sexuality diversity. They prefer their headcanon ships like Logan/Scott to the real queer characters and then they are surprised and mad because there is no diversity. Sorry but if X-men fans prefer to support headcanons over canons it’s their fault not writers
    This actually happens in all fandoms. But what you say rubs me the wrong way, it's as i you don't get what a headcanon relationship means in the first place and why a person grows to be a fan of it. You can't interchange one headcanon to a canon pair, given that you have to change characters to start with.
    As a I Kirk/Spock shipper, I have no interest in, say, Stamets/Culber of Star Trek Discovery and I haven't watched the show (thus I haven't supported the pair). If I shipped (I don't) Batman/Superman, why should I prefer Superman'son/his-boyfriend? You could say I would be hypocrite if I didn't support Apollo/Midnighter, but not if I don't support Poison Ivy & Harley Quinn.

    Usually someone ships two characters because first they like said two characters, and then dynamic they would have if they were a romantic/sexual couple.
    A Kurt/Logan shipper (there's one on the forums) isn't obligated to support Shatterstar/Rictor just because the latter are a canon m/m pair. This shipper will support Shatterstar/Rictor if they care for at least one between Shatterstar and Rictor. A shipper isn't obliged to support all queer pairs just because they headcanon two straight males in a pair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hakka84 View Post
    This actually happens in all fandoms. But what you say rubs me the wrong way, it's as i you don't get what a headcanon relationship means in the first place and why a person grows to be a fan of it. You can't interchange one headcanon to a canon pair, given that you have to change characters to start with.
    As a I Kirk/Spock shipper, I have no interest in, say, Stamets/Culber of Star Trek Discovery and I haven't watched the show (thus I haven't supported the pair). If I shipped (I don't) Batman/Superman, why should I prefer Superman'son/his-boyfriend? You could say I would be hypocrite if I didn't support Apollo/Midnighter, but not if I don't support Poison Ivy & Harley Quinn.

    Usually someone ships two characters because first they like said two characters, and then dynamic they would have if they were a romantic/sexual couple.
    A Kurt/Logan shipper (there's one on the forums) isn't obligated to support Shatterstar/Rictor just because the latter are a canon m/m pair. This shipper will support Shatterstar/Rictor if they care for at least one between Shatterstar and Rictor. A shipper isn't obliged to support all queer pairs just because they headcanon two straight males in a pair.
    On x-twitter there was recently a big argument about Logan because someone said everyone wants bisexual Logan but there is already Fang who is Logan’s son and is bisexual but people don’t care because he’s not Logan

    And the throuple? It’s never been a real thing. It was pure queerbaiting. Literally every media talked about it when the Krakoa started but the buzz disappeared pretty fast.

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    Sooo...is Marvel looking to promote Storm as the female face of the universe over Captain Marvel?
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    The way I totally skipped over the throuple question LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony W View Post
    Sooo...is Marvel looking to promote Storm as the female face of the universe over Captain Marvel?
    It would make sense with mcu synergy. Especially that mcu cap marvel 2 flopped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hakka84 View Post
    This actually happens in all fandoms. But what you say rubs me the wrong way, it's as i you don't get what a headcanon relationship means in the first place and why a person grows to be a fan of it. You can't interchange one headcanon to a canon pair, given that you have to change characters to start with.
    As a I Kirk/Spock shipper, I have no interest in, say, Stamets/Culber of Star Trek Discovery and I haven't watched the show (thus I haven't supported the pair). If I shipped (I don't) Batman/Superman, why should I prefer Superman'son/his-boyfriend? You could say I would be hypocrite if I didn't support Apollo/Midnighter, but not if I don't support Poison Ivy & Harley Quinn.

    Usually someone ships two characters because first they like said two characters, and then dynamic they would have if they were a romantic/sexual couple.
    A Kurt/Logan shipper (there's one on the forums) isn't obligated to support Shatterstar/Rictor just because the latter are a canon m/m pair. This shipper will support Shatterstar/Rictor if they care for at least one between Shatterstar and Rictor. A shipper isn't obliged to support all queer pairs just because they headcanon two straight males in a pair.
    As the oldest slasher in town, 1980 for Kurt/Logan, (and having known the original Kirk/Spock slashers in the 70s and 80s, I was a Bashir/O’Brien slashe, back in the day) I am in agreement with much of this. The thruple in HoX/PoX didn’t work for me, but I was pleased to see any non-conforming to heteronormative relationships on display. I don’t think the queer end of fandom is obliged to slavishly adore any queer representation, but you can be supportive of other fans who do like the pairing, if nothing else, than not dragging the characters and creators down.

    I am quite taken aback by Brevoort’s tone regarding Scott/Jean/Logan, making it sound like it was the fans reading something into the story which wasn’t there, is rewriting what was in the actual comics quite dramatically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Su_Whisterfield View Post
    As the oldest slasher in town, 1980 for Kurt/Logan, (and having known the original Kirk/Spock slashers in the 70s and 80s, I was a Bashir/O’Brien slashe, back in the day) I am in agreement with much of this. The thruple in HoX/PoX didn’t work for me, but I was pleased to see any non-conforming to heteronormative relationships on display. I don’t think the queer end of fandom is obliged to slavishly adore any queer representation, but you can be supportive of other fans who do like the pairing, if nothing else, than not dragging the characters and creators down.

    I am quite taken aback by Brevoort’s tone regarding Scott/Jean/Logan, making it sound like it was the fans reading something into the story which wasn’t there, is rewriting what was in the actual comics quite dramatically.


    Especially because Percy (sorry I know we're all trying to recover) did canonize that Jean and Logan were more than friends at the beginning of his X-Force run. Unless we're supposed to believe that platonic besties get on top of each in a hot tub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingdom X View Post
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    Especially because Percy (sorry I know we're all trying to recover) did canonize that Jean and Logan were more than friends at the beginning of his X-Force run. Unless we're supposed to believe that platonic besties get on top of each in a hot tub.
    I really didn’t like Percy’s work, but I’m not going to pretend it didn’t exist!
    But then, platonic besties can share a bottle of beer in a seedy room while one of them is stark naked…

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    Quote Originally Posted by Braxxer View Post
    It would make sense with mcu synergy. Especially that mcu cap marvel 2 flopped.
    Was coming on here to say the exact same thing. The Marvels flopped. Hard. Storm is the kind of character that I could see being very popular in the MCU. Giving her a higher profile for the new movies to come would be a smart idea. It would also be smart to have at least half of the mutants in the lineup be characters who have not had quite as high a profile in than in the other movies. Jubilee, Bishop, Sunfire, Magik etc. should appear over the same old same olds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Su_Whisterfield View Post
    I really didn’t like Percy’s work, but I’m not going to pretend it didn’t exist!
    But then, platonic besties can share a bottle of beer in a seedy room while one of them is stark naked…
    Maybe brevoort meant the throuple and not an open marriage because these two aren’t synonymous

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    Between this and Kitty inabilities to go through the Krakoa gates apparently never being a mystery, it's like the X men editorials are competing against the Spider-Man's on Who can try to gaslight their readers more.

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