Storm is Claustrophobic. In Other News, Black Panther Smashes Hollywood Myths

[Marvell2100]

Nope. Storm in the 90s is how we got here. No one really cared for T Challa on that level but Storm led the most popular version of X men in history until the Fox show blew up. Over the last 6 years, Black Panther's star blew up and had been on the rise since the Priest run.

Yes Storm led the X-Men and gained popularity. That does not make her more iconic.

It doesn't lessen her accomplishments in the slightest. But she is not the most iconic black superhero.

[JasonEsta]

Storm still has the potential. Marvel has just yet to explore it. That's all.

No. It was more than that. Its called "sabotage". They push ed her down..Morrison in particular to push his blonde fantasy chick in Emma Frost..They even killed Jean Grey..the heart of the team to push their Cyclops/Emma agenda for years. Bendis, of all people, was the one who finally stopped it but then he started this Kitty thing.

And that's not counting how the main Marvel books push Carol Danvers over Storm when Storm was bigger than the entire Avengers all throughout the 80s, 90s, and early 2000s. Always read between the lines. The agenda was obvious. Blonde hair. Blue eyes. Touche.

[rutog98]

I guess the point I am making is to use the comicbook readership as a microcosm. A well-written Storm resonates with a much larger and broader-range of readership than T'challa ever did. It would stand to reason that a well-written Storm movie would likely surpass the BP movie as well given that her character connects with more people of various backgrounds than his when she is handled decently.

[Marvell2100]

Storm still has the potential. Marvel has just yet to explore it. That's all.

You're right, she still does have potential. Maybe under new management, she'll be able to turn that potential into commercial success.

[BBeeryan]

No. It was more than that. Its called "sabotage". They push ed her down..Morrison in particular to push his blonde fantasy chick in Emma Frost..They even killed Jean Grey..the heart of the team to push their Cyclops/Emma agenda for years. Bendis, of all people, was the one who finally stopped it but then he started this Kitty thing.

And that's not counting how the main Marvel books push Carol Danvers over Storm when Storm was bigger than the entire Avengers all throughout the 80s, 90s, and early 2000s. Always read between the lines. The agenda was obvious. Blonde hair. Blue eyes. Touche.

This tea is PIPING HOT! Sip slow, folks.

[JasonEsta]

Yes Storm led the X-Men and gained popularity. That does not make her more iconic.

It doesn't lessen her accomplishments in the slightest. But she is not the most iconic black superhero.

Much more iconic than Black Panther. This isn't even close. Do you have any idea how many video games, shows, and movies Storm has had a top spot in compared to BP? It's not even fair. Black Panther is successful today but when Marvel was selling hundreds of thousands of X books a month...Storm. Rogue, Magneto, Wolverine. They were all in the forefront.

[rutog98]

Regardless of what we don't know, WHAT WE DO KNOW IS THAT WHEN IT COMES TO BOX OFFICE OPENINGS, BLACK PANTHER HAS ETCHED HIS NAME AMONGST THE HIGHEST OF ALL TIME. THAT'S WITH HIS DEBUT FILM. WITH ALL THE X-FILMS THAT WE'VE BEEN GIVEN, NOT ONE OF THEM CAN LAY CLAIM TO THIS ACCOMPLISHMENT. NOT EVEN WOLVERINE AND HIS SOLO FILMS. Storm is outclassed on this front. Plain and simple. No amount of spin is gonna change this fact.

Of course Storm is outclassed on that front. She has never been given the chance. Its nothing big to make this claim. What I am saying, however, is given that a well-written Storm has always resonated with a larger and more varied group of people than T'challa, it stands to reason that a well-done Storm movie would also most likely outshine Panther's movie. She's the premier black character in comics, but she is being underutilized. That's all. They just need to start writing her well again and start promoting her more.

[BBeeryan]

You're right, she still does have potential. Maybe under new management, she'll be able to turn that potential into commercial success.

Oops. You mean the way Black Panther has? Any black superhero to follow is gonna e judged based off of Black Panther. It is what it is. Show me the lie.

[Marvell2100]

I guess the point I am making is to use the comicbook readership as a microcosm. A well-written Storm resonates with a much larger and broader-range of readership than T'challa ever did. It would stand to reason that a well-written Storm movie would likely surpass the BP movie as well given that her character connects with more people of various backgrounds than his when she is handled decently.

You keep saying well-written as though T'Challa has been well-written during his entire comic life.

Right now, the proof is in the box-office. Black Panther is smashing it. We won't and don't know if a well written Storm solo movie will surpass T'Challa.

The Dark Knight was a well written Batman movie. Black Panther is killing it easy.

[Crimz]

Potential means nothing if not utilized...

I just have to say that I love how the BP film disproves the myth that a POC majority cast won't sell well. That myth has held so many POC in Hollywood back for years.
It has now officially been debunked as numbers don't lie

[Sandfall]

You are quite wrong. Black Panther was the first mainstream African/African-American hero to shatter stereotypes. He is the most iconic Black superhero

Don't confuse popularity with being iconic.

Wolverine maybe more popular than Superman but he is not more iconic.

Black Panther is popular. Storm is popular and iconic. Storm is the character that shattered racial serotypes because her character is far beyond race. She was the co-leader of an all white team. Storm is a great comic book character that just happens to be black. Everything about Black Panther is about race. Its like marvel was scared that the film will fail they had to make it a race political movement.

Storm does not need that kind of worried treatment. Blade never did 20 years ago. John Stewart, Blade and Storm are more iconic than Black Panther. Black Panther is enjoying excellent movie PR.It is not the same thing as an iconic character.

[Marvell2100]

Much more iconic than Black Panther. This isn't even close. Do you have any idea how many video games, shows, and movies Storm has had a top spot in compared to BP? It's not even fair. Black Panther is successful today but when Marvel was selling hundreds of thousands of X books a month...Storm. Rogue, Magneto, Wolverine. They were all in the forefront.

Again, popularity does not equal iconic. Storm is a member of a popular and iconic team but she is not the only reason for its success.

BP alone is responsible for his longevity and success.

Using your logic, in just 3 days, Black Panther just became more popular than the X-Men. That logic is just as flawed.

[Crimz]

Black Panther is popular. Storm is popular and iconic. Storm is the character that shattered racial serotypes because her character is far beyond race. She was the co-leader of an all white team. Storm is a great comic book character that just happens to be black. Everything about Black Panther is about race. Its like marvel was scared that the film will fail they had to make it a race political movement.

Storm does not need that kind of worried treatment. Blade never did 20 years ago. John Stewart, Blade and Storm are more iconic than Black Panther. Black Panther is enjoying excellent movie PR.It is not the same thing as an iconic character.

[Marvell2100]

Black Panther is popular. Storm is popular and iconic. Storm is the character that shattered racial serotypes because her character is far beyond race. She was the co-leader of an all white team. Storm is a great comic book character that just happens to be black. Everything about Black Panther is about race. Its like marvel was scared that the film will fail they had to make it a race political movement.

Storm does not need that kind of worried treatment. Blade never did 20 years ago. John Stewart, Blade and Storm are more iconic than Black Panther. Black Panther is enjoying excellent movie PR.It is not the same thing as an iconic character.

No matter how you try to spin it, you still come up wrong. Black Panther broke barriers before Storm and became a more iconic character.

Some people keep making it into a popularity contest.

No doubt, Storm is more popular than BP. But she is not more iconic.

[wano]

Potential means nothing if not utilized...

I just have to say that I love how the BP film disproves the myth that a POC majority cast won't sell well. That myth has held so many POC in Hollywood back for years.
It has now officially been debunked as numbers don't lie

Also, breitbart gave black panther a positive review for God's sake, even the alt right likes black panther ¬¬