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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarantino View Post
    Where is this from? Was that suppose to be sinister?
    From Colossus: Bloodlines
    The guy with the sinister (lol) looking face is
    Grigori Rasputin the dude who influenced the matriarch of the last Russian Tsar family and Colossus, Magik, and Mikhails ancestor

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarantino View Post
    Where is this from? Was that suppose to be sinister?
    It's from X-Men Annual 12. After reading the story, I forgot that Longshot and maybe Wolverine both know about Colossus's son.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jalsrix View Post
    Huh. That doesn't prove anything because there's no dialogue. If he is really his son, why did Colossus not bring him home?

    Maybe Marvel will ignore this series because it's not mainstream. It's not the first time Marvel ignored past writers.
    There was no dialogue because he was in a different part of the planet. Peter doesn't know he has a son. That page just shows you that all the people of Rasputin bloodline could feel the original Rasputin being reborn. You have to read the story for it to make sense. And the son of Colossus is a creation of Claremont from the 80s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordAllMIghty View Post
    It's from X-Men Annual 12. After reading the story, I forgot that Longshot and maybe Wolverine both know about Colossus's son.
    There's no indication that he is Colossus's son in the dialogue. "Perhaps he will return. Then he is welcomed."

    Doesn't imply Colossus at all since Colossus is already there. The son's father is someone else.

    If she can have casual sex with Colossus, then there are many men of her tribe she can have sex with after Colossus left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jalsrix View Post
    There's no indication that he is Colossus's son in the dialogue. "Perhaps he will return. Then he is welcomed."

    Doesn't imply Colossus at all since Colossus is already there. The son's father is someone else.

    If she can have casual sex with Colossus, then there are many men of her tribe she can have sex with after Colossus left.
    I was actually thinking the same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BroHomo View Post
    Where would he take him? The X-Mansion? A place that is always getting attacked/ blown up?
    Why not? Jubilee has an adopted kid that she brought back to the mansion. The guy called Shogo or something.

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    Side note: that scan has answered a question I’ve had for a long time as to whether Colossus’ hair was solid or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jalsrix View Post
    There's no indication that he is Colossus's son in the dialogue. "Perhaps he will return. Then he is welcomed."

    Doesn't imply Colossus at all since Colossus is already there. The son's father is someone else.

    If she can have casual sex with Colossus, then there are many men of her tribe she can have sex with after Colossus left.
    Claremont is trying to be subtle about it. Nereel doesn't want Peter to know because Peter will leave again. She named her son after Peter which isn't a common name for her tribe.

    In X-men The End, Claremont called the son Kid Colossus and he had the same powerset as Peter Sr, so that's clearly what Claremont intended. Whether later writers pick it up is another matter, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jalsrix View Post
    There's no indication that he is Colossus's son in the dialogue. "Perhaps he will return. Then he is welcomed."

    Doesn't imply Colossus at all since Colossus is already there. The son's father is someone else.

    If she can have casual sex with Colossus, then there are many men of her tribe she can have sex with after Colossus left.
    I initially thought Colossus was actually acknowledging his paternity with that "And if he returns" "Then he would be welcomed"... the purpose of the threesome wasn't "casual sex" - it was explicitly to conceive a replacement for the woman who was killed by the T-rex, with the understanding that Peter could not be there to raise any child so conceived. That we see Kid Colossus in X-men: The End clearly tells us Claremont's intention that Peter has a son.

    As for Claremont's intended Kitty-Rachel pairing, Piotr was dead at the time of writing, and wasn't an option. He paired them up in Uncanny #460 long before Whedon did during Astonishing. My take is that Claremont writes Kitty as bi, and there's room in her heart for Peter & Rachel (and possibly Illyana - GLMK 2 is a bit confusing). Whatever the haters may think, it is explicitly in the text throughout the years that Kitty & Peter are among the most important people to one another. Uncanny #375 suggests that they are the MOST important.
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    I don't think anyone argues that Kitty and Piotr don't matter to each other. The argument is that other people matter more, and that Magik and Shadowcat or Phoenix and Shadowcat lack a lot of the toxicity of the Shadowcat-Colossus thing.

    (Pete Wisdom is the worst, ofc. He just exists cause Warren Ellis wanted to sleep with a fictional character.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by comradepitrovsky View Post
    (Pete Wisdom is the worst, ofc. He just exists cause Warren Ellis wanted to sleep with a fictional character.)
    To be fair, Pete Wisdom is pretty much the same character Ellis creates over and over again: British, disillusioned, drinker and smoker, sarcastic, violent...
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    Quote Originally Posted by nx01a View Post
    To be fair, Pete Wisdom is pretty much the same character Ellis creates over and over again: British, disillusioned, drinker and smoker, sarcastic, violent...
    And was only interesting when it was named Jenny Sparks.

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    Edit:Twice should be enough

    Quote Originally Posted by jalsrix View Post
    Why not? Jubilee has an adopted kid that she brought back to the mansion. The guy called Shogo or something.
    He's not outta danger yet. When your house can ve destroyed by giant killer robots, racist religious freaks, previously dead loved ones, or a person like Cassandra Nova casually walks in and kids a lil bit whyyyy would you think it'll be a GRRRRREAT place to raise your kid?
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    Quote Originally Posted by comradepitrovsky View Post
    (Pete Wisdom is the worst, ofc. He just exists cause Warren Ellis wanted to sleep with a fictional character.)
    As opposed to Whedon and Guggenheim (especially the latter)?

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    At least they didn't invent an OC to do so.

    (It's a very small at least, but, y'know. Take what we can get.)

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