X-Men Gold #29 Recap/Review, Baby

[Omegarogue]

Rogue's strength is not hers, it came from Ms Marvel (correct me if I am wrong). Her original mutant powers is just absorbing other people's powers.

That is only a portion of Ms Marvel strength and not whole.

So Colossus is stronger than Rogue

NO it is not, Rogue improved the powers I take from Carol, and Classic Rogue was much stronger physically than Ms Marvel was before that contact.

At this point Colossus yes, it was a bit stronger than Classic Rogue, just a little bit, although Rogue was much more powerful because of the absorption and the totality of its powers.

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Currently Rogue possesses the same strength as Wonderman, it was said that this kind of power works best in the Rogue body and has unlimited energy potential, that is, it will be even stronger in the future than it already is.

Currently she is much stronger than Colossus, Wonderman is too, so Rogue also, and Rogue has several feats that prove it, some of them post in my previous post.

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Namor? he has always been stronger than Colossus, even without being wet, he has given better fight to Jugg and Hulk than Colossus has ever been able to do, the same applies to the current Rogue, she can be beaten in equality with Jugg and with Hulk, something that Colossus can not.


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Sasquatch is very strong, and certainly in his case if he is very leveled to Rogue and Wondermna, but I do not see him superior, besides the first two his power and strength will continue to increase.

[Omegarogue]

If she's so powerful, she couldnt have been taken down so easily after a few toom toom in the current 'Return of Wolverine Madripoor series'.

Colossus's mutant power is strength and not Rogue, Rogue's power is absorbing other people abilities temporarily.

Rogue was never written to be more powerful than Colossus initially by CC.

So??????????????????? this was in 1981-2000 NOW is 2018
Rogue was written to be a poweerhouse, initially by CC, thank you.

All the characters have bad writing, including Jugg or Hulk.

Besides, that story is not over yet.

Saying this, classic Rogue in strength was a bit lower than Colossus, and? No one is arguing this, just like Rogue was much more powerful than Colossus is by the sum of his abilities, besides Colossus can not do anything in the face of his powers of absorption.

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And current Rogue,YES in fact it is much stronger than Colossus, she has the same strength as Wonderman, to think that the current Rogue has the same strength as the classic one, when it is like that, the current one is much stronger. in all its powers, and in strength it is stronger than Colossus.

She hit him and did things with Julk and Juggy that Colossus has never done on his best day.

Rogue hold The power of Graviton and kept walking, something that Colossus would not even dream of, Graviton gives problems even to Thor, with that I tell you everything.

NOW Rogue=WM and Namor > Sasquatch>>>>>>>>> Colossus.

[rogueisbae]

https://soundcloud.com/marvel/x-men-...thew-rosenberg

I think around 6 minutes in, we hear Rosenberg talk about the actual team dynamics. How some are "going through some stuff, having rough times, falling out with the X-Men, and some have simply stepped away."

The team consists of:

-Havok (fresh off an inversion-inversion)
-Beast (idk he's always depressed)
-Warpath (falling out with Weapon X-Force)
-Dazzler
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and--Colossus. Maybe it's the Bisexual!Kitty stan in me, but I'm 55.68% sure that the marriage isn't happening. And it will cause Piotr to leave Gold, which leads him to join up with Havok's team. Hell, it even lines up. Gold #31 (where a team member leaves) is coming out the same week as Astonishing #13 (the debut of the team).

someone, please validate this omg

Nice concept, but do you really think Guggenheim will stop the wedding? He’s practically projecting himself through Piotr, I’ll be surprised if he doesn’t knock her up two issues later.

[marcofari]

I appreciate this issue.

[marcofari]

Looooooovveee

[Park Slope Pixie]

I know it was stated in one issue that the Blackbird weighs 200 tons. Here, we see Colossus easily carrying the Blackbird on his back: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/Kz35k0Ps2xv...jy6DXVV7=s1600.

Where has Rogue ever lifted anything so heavy?

Besides the inordinate over-expectations from her fanbase?

[Xelossik]

I know it was stated in one issue that the Blackbird weighs 200 tons. Here, we see Colossus easily carrying the Blackbird on his back: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/Kz35k0Ps2xv...jy6DXVV7=s1600.

Where has Rogue ever lifted anything so heavy?

look :
http://i.imgur.com/pMdXAoE.png
http://i.imgur.com/7KkjoNc.png

http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/X-Men_Blackbird
Weight (at maximum capacity): 145,000 lbs (65,900 kg)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_C-130_Hercules
Max. takeoff weight: 155,000 lb (70,300 kg)

[Xelossik]

If she's so powerful, she couldnt have been taken down so easily after a few toom toom in the current 'Return of Wolverine Madripoor series'.

Colossus's mutant power is strength and not Rogue, Rogue's power is absorbing other people abilities temporarily.

Rogue was never written to be more powerful than Colossus initially by CC.

Rogue by Claremont was inconsitent (like all his characters).

Binary punches Rogue into low orbit
https://imgur.com/a/x9mFf

Juggernaut punches Rogue a considerable distance but she later appears unharmed
http://i.imgur.com/QesdB6K.png

but also ..Sabertooth beat her

but it all depends of one thing. Do You believe that characters should be able to grow?
Rogue absorbed Wonder Man powers who is almost 800 times stronger than Miss Marvel.
Do You think that she should be stronger than in the past?

[yogaflame]

I know it was stated in one issue that the Blackbird weighs 200 tons. Here, we see Colossus easily carrying the Blackbird on his back: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/Kz35k0Ps2xv...jy6DXVV7=s1600.

Where has Rogue ever lifted anything so heavy?

When did they say the Blackbird weighed that much? A real SR-71 Blackbird, fully loaded, is not even 80 tons. I can't image a 'modified' X-Men one being that much heavier!

Classical Colossus was stronger than Rogue, in terms of lifting/punching power. They were both teenagers. They have both changed a little over the years(a lot in Rogue's case, with a whole new power template in Wonder Man). They should both be class 100(100 tons and better), but Colossus hasn't had a lot of fancy feats recently, unlike Rogue in UA, so it is not easy to say who's stronger at this point, but Rogue definitely has the obvious advantage of her variable powers.

[Omegarogue]

look :
http://i.imgur.com/pMdXAoE.png
http://i.imgur.com/7KkjoNc.png

http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/X-Men_Blackbird
Weight (at maximum capacity): 145,000 lbs (65,900 kg)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_C-130_Hercules
Max. takeoff weight: 155,000 lb (70,300 kg)

owned

Thanks Xelo, I was looking for precisely that problem when Rogue loads that plane, we can really say with this, that Classic Rogue was closer to class 100 than previously thought.

Ruto does not know much or anything about Rogue so it is normal to underestimate her, and she makes a mistake by saying that Rogue and Namor are below Colossus when both are much stronger than him.

But good the current Rogue, and I show some scans that show that it is not a little but much stronger than Colossus, fighting very evenly (with Jugg and Hulk) and sending hundreds of meters to fly (to Hulk), or resisting the attack of Graviton and continuing to advance.

All these things mentioned above Colossus can not do, current Rogue YES.

[King_Thor13]

Surprise! More rubbish content. Kitty continues to drive me nuts, and Guggenheim continues to incapacitate members of his cast in order for others to prove their worth- another mark on the tally for the number of times Rachel has fallen unconscious in X-Men Gold. Apparently, pet names are a must. Boyo. Sugah. Friend. Kitten. Blargh. Glad Sasquatch got to show up before he dies over in Immortal Hulk (its a whole thing apparently). Oh look another reminder about the so-called wedding of the century (LOL). The groom doesn't want to get married but apparently he doesn't get a choice because of true love apparently. I mean, what the hell. Whats the bet a generic X-Villain crashes the wedding? In case y'all didn't get the vibe, I am so fed up with this book. It's shockingly bad and I'm sad for all the great characters stuck here- good thing most of the team have left/are leaving or are present elsewhere.

[Drakeon]

Pitor, blink twice if you are being coerced into this marriage

Illiyana is ready to port you to safety

[King_Thor13]

Piotr, blink twice if you are being coerced into this marriage

Illyana is ready to port you to safety

Hah. I wish.

[Dementia5]

Apparently, pet names are a must. Boyo. Sugah. Friend. Kitten. Blargh.

Blargh is a really dumb pet name.

[stormphoenix]

Blargh is a really dumb pet name.

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