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Yeah, I've always been fine with T'Challa not being the absolute best at anything, simply because he's better at more things than pretty much any other hero. Reeds the smartest, but he's not the best fighter in the world. My vote for best fighter in the comics (based on feats) would be Mantis, but she's not showing up on any "smartest" top 10s anytime soon. T'Challa shows up in both.
So he's got legit reasons to have bragging rights too.
In my own personal head canon, guys who are sort of good at everythng (like a Batman or a Doom or a T'Challa) aren't the absolute best at anything. If they focused on anyone thing the possibly could be, but that comes at the expense of dropping in ranking in other areas. You sacrifice being the absolute best at any one thing so you can be one of the best in a variety of things.
It was in the old days. Almost every time he entered a new room Karnak or Gorgon would claim him as the King who had never lost in battle or something similar. It would often be in the characters inner monologues too.
Then one writer allowed him to get beaten for the first time and it was down hill from there.
That's sorta my line of thought too.
Idea's Open Discussion And Growth. Silencing Idea's Confirms Them To Be True In The Minds Of Those Who Hold Them. The Attempt Of Eliminating Idea's Proves You To Be A Fool.
These sorta things come up and it always gets in this weird thing where you have to put a "power limit" in somewhere to make it fair.
Like, does Gorgon get in on the fun? Or is he too strong? Dude straight up trashed Shang lol
what about Wolverine? Mantis? Gamora?
Caps an obvious inclusion
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I don't think I am.
Too many writers put Doom vs T'challa together and can't get over their fanboyism of Doom.
You have two monarch super geniuses and the only stories out there are Doom making T'challa and Wakanda his personal bitch
I think you find it easy to say "Cap x Doom" because you seem to be an actual fan of the character lol.
Too many other "fans" see T'challa written to his maximum ability and take a step back and start putting limiters on him immediately.
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I think what T'Challa really, REALLY needs right now is for his powers, abilities and gear to be rebased. So many things have been brought up over the past decade or less that just come and go. All of the things that make him Black Panther just need to be reestablished. Different mediums can add or remove what they want, but there needs to be a new base.
I don't think you can credibly put any meta's in there. Once you do, it starts being less about skill and more about who is more powerful.
That said, if Metas are involved my money is on Mantis. I'd say her and Gamora are actually at the top of the list in terms of feats.
Movie pretty much has.
Enhanced human
vibranium mesh
vibranium claws
energy absorption/redirection in suit
King
Warrior
Agile Fighting Style
Confident but not stark/strange arrogant
then for comics and such, top 10 genius.
comics need to fall in line and have an arc or 10 where it is just those things and nothing else.
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I dont think he can tumble like SM especially since SM can stick to surfaces, but his quickness should be equal. Wasn't there an old comic where they semi-fought he was able to catch him?
I know we've talked in the past about standard abilities that should travel series to series no matter the writer, like other characters
Spidey -webshooters, spidey-sense, agility, bad luck
Cap -shield, h2h, never-say-die, inspirational
Thor -hammer, bull-in-a-china-shop, not a big brain
Reed -pull-anything out of his ass, always stretchy, family man, loves Sue
Tony -genius, jerk, armor, repulsors
T'Challa -this is where the argument that he's good at so many things hurt him. Besides vibranium/Wakanda, what else is he known for?
He needs to be the best at something, have a signature thing.
What top 3-4 things(not just tech) should he be known for that should travel series to series, whether solo, team of guest appearance?