I can understand that part .
It shouldn't be just feats only. But that's where I lay the blame on the solo. Coates has done nothing with T'Challa as far as characterization or feats. If anything he's taken steps backwards. Everyone else gets some kind of development or they move forward. He did it with his pet characters which no one cared about because the book isn't about them.
T'Challa outside of his solo should be about 70% feats and 30% characterization. I'm not saying no character development but major stuff should not occur outside the solo. Any major character development should come from his solo and any other titles should take the characterizations cues from the solo and do majority feats, just like they do with Steve, Tony, Thor etc.
Except, in this case, Coates has done such a crappy job on the solo that everyone else is just ignoring his stuff which is a good thing.
Kirby did all sorts of weird isht, including the pre-Steranko Nick Fury stuff. He even did some work on a Prisoner graphic novel.
I disagree. It's only creative laziness that reduces everything to heroes punching villains (or, more recently, heroes punching other heroes). A smart writer can pen a story that does both… the Warren Ellis run on Secret Avengers had some nice examples, IIRC.
Honestly, I don't think it's a matter of being starved for good stories, I think it's as simple as the solo being a failure. I don't think there's anything wrong with AoW, it's a fun action book like Zub said.
The problem is that the solo is such a frak-fest that people are looking elsewhere for development and characterization of BP and Wakanda and they don't see it in AoW. Which imo shouldn't be the case.
If WoW wasn't the bomb that it was, handled it's premise better than the stupid plot of Two Wakandan Girls in New York, then that could have been the perfect complimentary book to a BP solo. Neither Coates nor his friends should ever be given a BP book to write again.
Agents of SHIELD was a close to all American enterprise so there's really no tangible reason why Agents of Wakanda should be anything but Wakanda complete with tech that showcases Wakandan bespoke designs, applications and uniqueness.
As things stand now, there's very little if anything that distinguishes AoW from any other team based book that Marvel's putting out currently.
Yeah, T'Challa looks good in this book at least up until he starts dropping silly passwords and codes that make him look like a chump.
I for one, remain sick and tired of settling for scraps from the singularly uncreative House of Ideas.
The Hellicarrier will always be synonymous with Nick Fury and SHIELD.
T'Challa needs something unique to his world regardless of whether it's in his core solo book or one ostensibly titled Agents of Wakanda.
I don't see the helicarrier being synonymous with SHIELD anymore sine they've been gone for so long. If they called it something else it wouldn't matter. As far as we can tell, AoW is not as expansive as SHIELD was and they are dealing with things that SHIELD didn't or couldn't handle.
I agreed earlier that there can be more Wakandans on this team for sure. There is no set line-up as agents come and go depending on the mission. T'Challa in a book not chumping him out and he's doing feats and tech? I'm good with that. Passcodes don't faze me. He could have said shitstorm for all I care on that one. Not a problem for me.
Again, AoW is not a bad book. The problem is that the solo should be giving us all the things we're looking for and we're not getting it. I don't expect AoW to go too in-depth about Wakanda, that's what the solo is there for and that is the failure, not what's happening in AoW.
I didnt even think Tchalla would be a prominent character. I figured he be a face on a video screen. Okyoe should be the most upset. She's the director and he keeps coming along. Lol
I'm getting more than what I anticipated. My expectation was short self contained stories with different team mashups around the world.
for me it's teo things, the agenda and the Characters. Indontnwsnt Zub to pull an Ewing ie interviews saying the book is one thing then actual content is something else entirely. If he just wants to do high octane make that the mission statement from the jump.
Second is Characters. I'm fine with wasp, and Roz
But again if it's espionage then get spy characters. And add Kasper ad a new HZ operative.
Vehicle's I can look past it but if like an N'Yami 2.0
This i agree with 100%. Its why we were so bothered by wow, long live, abd the Crew. All failures, all relied on shade throwing, biting the hand that feeds them, and were just overall isht unoriginal stories. Rise should of been the first spin off, followed by AoW, then the fun ones BP vs do ghost Panther, sound of fury etc should of been next. Abd the one shot of Kasper should of been mini