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    Icarus

    Also repower Aero and have Elizabeth's powers finally manifest.

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    what are the ages of the Guthrie kids? and isn't Joelle a regular human? that must suck.


    Sam
    Josh
    Joelle
    Paige
    Elizabeth
    Lewis
    Jeb
    Melody
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwatson View Post
    Im very curious. How do you see the scene going? Or how would you write it? Because in most outcomes i see any but the die hard Jean fans being like "damn she really going in on someone who was addicted to drugs?" Sometimes optics just don't look good, even if a character gets to express themselves.
    Soemone that did something wrong dealing with consequences, it is not something we see a lot on X-books.

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    the drug was Sublime (a sentient bacterial colony) in asthma puff form. Sublime is the villain that killed Jean, not Xorn.
    Unfortunately Marvel doesnt use Sublime much, perhaps from respecting the Morrison run too much.
    It doesnt help that the last time Xorn was used he almost dates Rachel and there was a stupid plot about "him" having a sister "Arkea". (it's stupid because bacterias don't have gender, the real Sublime is the bacteria, not the human body they rule as a puppet)
    Marvel only ever respected Morrison run when it came to screw over Jean.
    Sublime only showed up less than one time than Cassandra Nova, she was on whedon and Taylor's runs while Sublime was on Wood's run.
    The whole thing of sublime almost dating Rachel was really bleak
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    Wallflower & Squidboy

    The OG Hellions

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    I’d genuinely like to see Birdy resurrected, if only to take revenge on Creed for all the abuse he put her through.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    Soemone that did something wrong dealing with consequences, it is not something we see a lot on X-books.



    Marvel only ever respected Morrison run when it came to screw over Jean.
    Sublime only showed up less than one time than Cassandra Nova, she was on whedon and Taylor's runs while Sublime was on Wood's run.
    The whole thing of sublime almost dating Rachel was really bleak
    I think Sublime could be a great villain, and I would love for Jean to have her revenge on him, but Marvel really shitted the bed with their last Sublime story, even worse than the Rachel thing, the biggest problem was not understanding the character. A sentient bacterial colony billions of years old, genderless, that hates mutantkind, evolution and change, because it wants to remain on top of the world's food chain.

    Sublime is also quite responsible for the deaths of Esme, Sophie, and Quentin Quire (although Quire selfresurrected)
    the only reasonable justification for Sublime "dating" Rachel is him trying to infect her

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    Jacob Gavin jr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Watkins View Post
    what are the ages of the Guthrie kids? and isn't Joelle a regular human? that must suck.


    Sam
    Josh
    Joelle
    Paige
    Elizabeth
    Lewis
    Jeb
    Melody
    Let's get that list complete...

    Samuel Guthrie - Cannonball
    Paige Guthrie - Husk
    Joshua Guthrie - Icarus - dead
    Melody Guthrie - Aero - depowered
    Elizabeth Guthrie - Amazon in AoA - no power in 616 (yet?)
    Jebediah Guthrie - some sort of eye beam - depowered
    Joelle Guthrie
    Lewis Guthrie
    Cissie Guthrie
    unnamed sister
    Ray Jr. (foster brother) so most likely no mutant power.

    I always thought it would be funny-cool if all the Guthrie kids were mutants.
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    Tempo...not sure if she still dead but i saw potential in the character.
    Some of us wait, some of us act.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordAllMIghty View Post
    Tempo...not sure if she still dead but i saw potential in the character.
    me too, unfortunately Bendis created Tempus. similar power and name

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    St.Croix mother.
    Tommy from the Morlocks.
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    Give Martha her body back.
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    Reveal that the modifications the Facility made to Kimura were just enhancing a latent or existing mutation (say, she already had mildly enhanced durability, but the Facility ramped it up to Eleven). Resurrecting her with the idea she could serve Mutant-kind could be part of what led Laura to leave Krakoa, and perhaps once resurrected her durability was restored at her natural level, but not fully indestructible. At some point she and Laura are forced to work together, and confront their similar backgrounds (perhaps revealing that a big part of why Kimura came to hate and obsess over Laura so much at the end was because when she saw Laura she saw herself, and was angry that Laura had been able to heal, while she could not).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dementia5 View Post
    I’d genuinely like to see Birdy resurrected, if only to take revenge on Creed for all the abuse he put her through.
    He already being punished

    Quote Originally Posted by lurkerforyears View Post
    I think Sublime could be a great villain, and I would love for Jean to have her revenge on him, but Marvel really shitted the bed with their last Sublime story, even worse than the Rachel thing, the biggest problem was not understanding the character. A sentient bacterial colony billions of years old, genderless, that hates mutantkind, evolution and change, because it wants to remain on top of the world's food chain.

    Sublime is also quite responsible for the deaths of Esme, Sophie, and Quentin Quire (although Quire selfresurrected)
    the only reasonable justification for Sublime "dating" Rachel is him trying to infect her
    Sublime was created when Morrison almost died because he had a infection with a superbactery. I don't think it is a concept easy to use;
    Seems like everything that happened with Jean was so long that writers ignore or solve anything with a page. That is anticlimatic and doesn't help to build the character

    Bacterias don't date
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    Silver Samurai

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    Copycat she would be useful.

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