T'Challa has dealt with coups before ... but this scenario was different, in that the problem couldn't simply be resolved by punching out the people rising against him. There was clearly a desire among the people for democrasy, and that isn't going to go away simply by beating the crap out of Tetu and Zenzi. That last part T'Challa can obviously handle on his own.
Of course, ultimately T'Challa's sollution was pretty simple... give the people what they want. But Hodari I think respresented a certain portion of Wakanda that was resistant to change. T'Challa entertained that notion but ultimately rejected it in favor of supporting what the people wanted. T'Challa still got to be king, so I doubt he honestly cared if other people in government were elected by the people or not.
Pretty much this. My whole point is summed up here:
Actually thats not true at all. He has dealt with it before. In Priest run when the jabari Wanted to have freedom tondo their own thing when T'Challa was suffering from the aneurysm.Again Coates story would work for a new character with no history who's whole deal is that he was thrust into kingship, after his family members who proceeded him and had claim to the thrown were gone and he never had aspirations, or bothered, to learn how to rule, and his country was one that barely held itself together under a monarch.
He could punch out the people because they weren't Wakandan.
And your but about hodari makes zero sense because if the claim was "a certain portion resistant to change" then why would they ask for aid from outsiders? Something they have never done, and them being despots, who they definitely would consider themselves superior to. Your idea easily collapses under the tiniest scrutiny. How it was handled, what was said and done with the whole little deal with it, was simply to throw shade, nothing more.
They would ask for aide from people who deal with this sort of thing. Dictators and despots have experience supressing demoncray and the will of the people. It's sort of their thing. And the point of it wasn't to show shade...it was to differentiate him from other dictators despite the fact that he was a monarch. It was the opposite of shade. That's why we ultimately show him granting his people the right to vote and have a voice unlike other rulers who deny people that basic right. It shows that he's ultimately a ruler who cares enough to give the people what they wanted... which in this instance was pretty easy to do since he still got to keep his job regardless.
No because it got turned against him and he took
shade from it and even when he "proved"his innocence it was still used against him.
And tell me. Why would Wakanda turn to dictators for help? A nation who criticized the rest of the world for what they have done to Africa and themselves. Why would they do the same thing? Why would Wakanda need help for something they have dealt with before? Because tchalla has said he embodies the will of the people so why would he try and suppress it? Forward thinking T'Challa would wanted to open Wakanda to the world because he believed Wakanda could help the world be a a better place? You see the problem here? Coates was not trying to show how great tchalla was. The entire time he's been on the book he has been trying to show why a monarch sucks and how Wakanda isn't as great as we think. Again under the tiniest scrutiny that argument falls apart
Sure the bad guys turned it against him... but that's not shade on him. Bad guys do bad things. He didn't actually do anything wrong there., and in the end ultimately does the right thing by giving the Wakandan people what they want.
As for why a Wakandan might suggest advice on quelling democracy from dicators and despots? Because dictators and despots quel demoncray. It's obviously not help T'Challa needed as he was going to give it to the Wakandan people anyways... but the point of it all was to show there was some resistance to chance from government and T'Challa allowed that resistance to get a bit of a voice, before ultimately shutting it down.
changa thew it back in his face. It WAS shade throwing. Everyone Saw that, BP fans, even casuals went WTF because it was so obviously a set up and ooc and stupid.
So you think again. T'Challa dealt with that before already. But you already know this. This argument your providing is weak at best and is an assumption on your part. None of tue stuff your saying was confirmed on panel. In fact, what we see on panel tells something different entirely.
"Bad guys do bad things" is exactly the reasons why T'Challa shouldn't have been consulting with despots or should have seen them turning on him. Being an imperfect person doesn't mean you suddenly have to behave inexperienced.
It's like Captain America having working together with Red Skull for a supposed greater good (something Steve would probably never do) and then being surprised that Red Skull turned against him in the end.
Fictional characters are meant to be consistent, especially if they're long running.
In T'Challa's case he has a history of consulting with Namor and Dr. Doom back in the day. Course, given how things ended up with both Doom and Namor MAYBE he regrets that in hindsight.
Steve actually has worked with Red Skull though. It's rare, but you do sometimes end up in an "enemy of your enemy is your friend" situation.
Guys, guys... just give it up.
No matter what you say, Coates' partisans will either find SOME excuse for why what he wrote is "just like Priest/Hudlin!", or some off-panel explanation that justifies it.
Just a few more months, and it will be over.
THe dictators T'Challa was meeting with presumably were world leaders do. To be a dictator you have to be dictating over something, I would imagine.
They're just not the dictators T'Challa usualy consults with since he's not on speaking terms with Namor and Doom in recent years. Not that Namor and Doom are necessarily the best people to talk to given both have been overthrown a bunch of times. So the HZ guy could only get third stringers ... and ultimately that was crappy advice. But considering the source maybe it wasn't surprising. The source was an HZ, and they were T'Chaka's secret police back in the day. THey probably did the same stuff dictators do, so maybe this wasn't that surprsiing a suggestion given the source.
But yeah... it was ultimately useless since T'Challa was just going to give the people what they wanted anyways.
Ezyo1000, have you ever had the chance to talk to Coates about any of those gripes?
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