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    Quote Originally Posted by Tami View Post
    Seriously, everyone already knows, it's not big secret. There has to be something even more egregious hiding in his closet then just himself.
    Graham is part if the "Roll back as many of their rights as we can and stuff them back into the closet" party. Removing his thin layer of deniability would be more than enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tami View Post
    Seriously, everyone already knows, it's not big secret. There has to be something even more egregious hiding in his closet then just himself.
    Or it could be that some day we will find out that it was a tiny thing - that became massive only to himself. And we'll go "What? He nearly destroyed the country just because he didn't want people to know he had a shirtless pic of Michael Jordan on his wall?"

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    I think besides being Gay, Graham has also been compromised by Putin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tami View Post
    Seriously, everyone already knows, it's not big secret. There has to be something even more egregious hiding in his closet then just himself.
    I mean he could be hiding something and being blackmailed anything is possible. But I think many people forget Graham was an A-hole before Trump. He really hasn't changed.

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    With Graham and Cruz, it’s arguable the difference in perception was that they were seen as having some kind of spine, whether they were perceived as good or evil.

    The creepiest thing about Trumpism from an amoral POV is how objectively cowardly, sycophantic, and weak willed it’s political disciples are; they submit themselves to Trump’s will so much that they even lose the respect you’d have for them as opponents.

    Guys like Romney, Cheney, Flake, Corker, McCain and the Lincoln Project aren’t united so much by moral standards as simply not being as willing to kiss ass to someone who’s a raging megalomaniac, parasite, *and* a dumbass. Romney is arguably in a category unique compared to the others because Mormon voters have been chilly enough about Trumpism and are looked down on by other evangelical voters enough that Romney has some political will of his constituents to fuel his courage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by inisideguy View Post
    I mean he could be hiding something and being blackmailed anything is possible. But I think many people forget Graham was an A-hole before Trump. He really hasn't changed.
    I think it's just become more obviously noticeable since the rise of Trump.
    In the old days, he seemed like he could sometimes act rational and live with compromise.

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    I see McConnell went to his usual low, voting not to impeach then giving a speech admitting Trump was guilty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby101 View Post
    I think besides being Gay, Graham has also been compromised by Putin.
    Or...

    It's really just the simplest version of things.

    The man is the sort of politician who has always done what it would take to save his own political neck.

    That he is simply looking out for number one probably has nothing to do with whatever arch villain folks want to imagine is orchestrating the whole thing.

    Most of the time?

    A politician looking out for their own interest is just that. Nothing that is any more complicated than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by inisideguy View Post
    I mean he could be hiding something and being blackmailed anything is possible. But I think many people forget Graham was an A-hole before Trump. He really hasn't changed.
    Quote Originally Posted by MajorHoy View Post
    I think it's just become more obviously noticeable since the rise of Trump.
    In the old days, he seemed like he could sometimes act rational and live with compromise.
    Also came with a heel turn where he went from saying that Trump was the worst thing for the party to backing Trump up at every turn.

    Never mind that whole "You Can Use My Words Against Me..." bit.

    Just seems like even the folks who had never really paid the guy a whole lot of mind could catch it when it was that obvious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godzilla2099 View Post
    This is why Cruz wins that award for the 'stereotypical sleeze-bag politician'

    It was an eye-roller watching that clip of Lindsey changing his opinion about 5 times on Donald Trump, but Cruz? Trump posted slanderous pictures of his wife and said his father participated in JFK's Assassination. Any normal man would fight the guy for having his woman and family disrespected. Its just pathetic beyond words. A jellyfish has more of a spine.
    Cruz is the worst and Graham is a close 2nd. Cruz defended Marjorie Green harder than he defended his own wife and then supported the guy who insulted her. Graham is spineless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WestPhillyPunisher View Post
    Cruz has been despised ever since Trump insulted his wife and intimated that his father was involved with JFK's assassination back in 2016 and not only didn't punch Trump's lights out, he became one Donald's most fervent asskissers, second only to Lindsey Graham who I feel is even more hated than Cruz by the left.
    Beohner claimed that he'd "never worked with a more miserable son of a bitch than Cruz," and referred to him as "Lucifer in the flesh." So yeah, I imagine that Little Teddy wins the most despised race by a significant stretch. What's truly amazing is how he continues to endure despite continually reversing position and backstabbing with abandon. I can see how he gets reelected by pandering to the evangelical bigot vote, but I can't see how he has even a dram of influence as everyone has got to know that any deal with him will get them shafted the instant something Cruz likes better comes along. I can't forget how he tried monkey-wrenching the nomination at the 2016 GQP convention; it flatly astonishes me that Trump let him have a sycophant seat at his table.

    As for the Dems reversing on calling witnesses. I get that it was futile, but I hope they at least got something out of it. Say, agreements with a bunch of non-Q Rs to abstain from attempts to gum up Biden's legislative works through 2022. We ought to know the story on that pretty soon.

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    As long as twitter keeps him banned, he will be a minor threat going forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Revolutionary_Jack View Post
    As long as twitter keeps him banned, he will be a minor threat going forward.
    Trump doesn't need Twitter to get his message out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ed2962 View Post
    Trump doesn't need Twitter to get his message out.
    Very true. He will still get media coverage. Even more now. The question is will FOX suck up to him to get him back or will he go OAN or Newsmax.

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