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    Quote Originally Posted by Chesterfield View Post
    Has anyone seen the new Bond film yet?

    spoilers:
    So before the film's release Barbara Broccoli states that the search for the new Bond actor will be finalised in 2022, no doubt to coincidence with the 60th anniversary. However, in this latest installment Bond gets killed off and at the end of the film it says, as always James Bond will return.

    I bring this up because it pisses me off that the Bond producers don't give a shit about trying to make things always make palatable sense to comfort audiences. They just get on with the job but for Marvel, they're going to kill off T'Challa, the James Bond of his franchise because some people are too in their feelings about the unfortunate passing of Chadwick. T'Challa is THE Black Panther and he is NOT dead. I doubt they'll pull off what No Time To Die has done to simply recast for the next film.
    end of spoilers

    Despite all the money Marvel has made, they're still a bunch of amateurs.
    I wanted to talk about this but since the film has not been released yet in the US, I decided to wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chief12d View Post
    A part of me hopes that this new villain is actually allowed to survive more than arc so they can get fleshed out. So then faking out T’Challa for a bit could work IMO. It felt like the trailer was suggesting T’Challa gets betrayed and friends turned into enemies.

    It’d be dope if this guy is an old friend of T’Challa’s that took an entirely different path in life, kinda like M’Baku but with there being actual flashbacks and stuff that flesh out the dynamic. One thing T’Challa’s been missing are personal villains and revamping characters from the past and/or retconned into their origins are a great way to add some.
    Quote Originally Posted by MindofShadow View Post
    It is either Hunter or it's gotta be that "retcon into origins" thing

    Who else could get into T'challa's deep spy network? Can't be some fly by night villain, its gotta be someone that was close to T'challa at some point.

    (of course, making tons of assumptions based on 4 pages and a solicit but it beats being depressed about the movie again lol)
    Uncle S'Yan perhaps?

    Dude might kinda be ticked that T'Challa isn't as aggressive with the spy program as he should be(S'Yan and T'Chaka did some shadey stuff).

    So he decides to expose it to make him look really bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvell2100 View Post
    Uncle S'Yan perhaps?

    Dude might kinda be ticked that T'Challa isn't as aggressive with the spy program as he should be(S'Yan and T'Chaka did some shadey stuff).

    So he decides to expose it to make him look really bad.
    Ain’t S’yan dead though?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vordan View Post
    Envy and rage aren’t reason enough? For philosophical opposition, MCU Killmonger is pissed at Wakanda and T’Challa for ignoring the plight of black people worldwide.
    I don't really agree with this.

    Killmonger is pissed at Wakanda because he found his dad dead with panther claws in his chest.

    The rest was an excuse based on trauma. Dude is a sociopath.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvell2100 View Post
    Uncle S'Yan perhaps?

    Dude might kinda be ticked that T'Challa isn't as aggressive with the spy program as he should be(S'Yan and T'Chaka did some shadey stuff).

    So he decides to expose it to make him look really bad.
    Quote Originally Posted by BlackClaw View Post
    Ain’t S’yan dead though?
    Something Something T'challa brought him back to life with the Gauntlet during SW on accident, something something Syan's been in hiding pissed off something something lol


    Where has Taku been at? Has anyone checked on Taku? Maybe he's bene lost in the techno jungle this whole time, he finally got out and now he is PISSED

    REVENGE OF TAKU!


    Or Sofija has been waiting in Hell's Kitchen for T'challa to call her back. T'challa never called.

    REVENGE OF SOFIJA!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackClaw View Post
    Ain’t S’yan dead though?
    S'Yan faked his own death and has been hiding and biding his time. Taku and Malakia could be the two we saw in the new images.

    It's going to take someone who knows Wakanda inside out(S'Yan), have access to Wakandan tech(Taku) and knows the Wakandan spy network(Malakia). These three fit the bill.

    Plus S'Yan was a former BP and would have the fighting skills to go up against T'Challa.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackClaw View Post
    Lupita has been posting a lot of pictures of her traveling and living her best life. Lol. Makes you wonder if she’s even gonna have as big a presence in this movie. But man, the first movie had nothing but excitement with every bit of news leading up to it. But this one it’s just been red flag after red flag.
    Just noticed this. Is it possible she gets killed off as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackClaw View Post
    Lupita has been posting a lot of pictures of her traveling and living her best life. Lol. Makes you wonder if she’s even gonna have as big a presence in this movie. But man, the first movie had nothing but excitement with every bit of news leading up to it. But this one it’s just been red flag after red flag.
    Quote Originally Posted by Klaue's Mixtape View Post
    Just noticed this. Is it possible she gets killed off as well?
    It was already weird that she wasn't in IW or EG. Especially since she seemingly has a good relationship with Disney.

    She has the biggest name outside of Chadwick yet she has zero presence outside of the Black Panther movie.

    Just odd in general considering the ending of the movie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvell2100 View Post
    S'Yan faked his own death and has been hiding and biding his time. Taku and Malakia could be the two we saw in the new images.

    It's going to take someone who knows Wakanda inside out(S'Yan), have access to Wakandan tech(Taku) and knows the Wakandan spy network(Malakia). These three fit the bill.

    Plus S'Yan was a former BP and would have the fighting skills to go up against T'Challa.

    TBF, poor syan got the brakes beat off him by a non powered T'challa lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MindofShadow View Post
    It was already weird that she wasn't in IW or EG. Especially since she seemingly has a good relationship with Disney.

    She has the biggest name outside of Chadwick yet she has zero presence outside of the Black Panther movie.

    Just odd in general considering the ending of the movie.
    Especially since some concept art for Endgame shows that she was supposed to be in the final battle. Maybe a scheduling conflict?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackClaw View Post
    Especially since some concept art for Endgame shows that she was supposed to be in the final battle. Maybe a scheduling conflict?
    They managed what... 60+ actors and couldn't manage to get her in front of a green screen?

    Just seems really odd.

    Was there any other major character missing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MindofShadow View Post
    TBF, poor syan got the brakes beat off him by a non powered T'challa lol.
    S'Yan working on anew heart-shaped herb.

    If not S'Yan I want it to be Kiber.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackClaw View Post
    Especially since some concept art for Endgame shows that she was supposed to be in the final battle. Maybe a scheduling conflict?
    I think MCU was preparing to do more with BP and Shuri in subsequent BP and MCU movies. And Shuri wasn't really needed in IW or EG. Give them a cameo in EG but this was the swan song for the original crew. That's why they didn't have much presence. They didn't know about Chad's illness and weren't prepared for his death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MindofShadow View Post
    They managed what... 60+ actors and couldn't manage to get her in front of a green screen?

    Just seems really odd.

    Was there any other major character missing?
    Now that you mention it, they could fit Pepper Potts into an Iron Man armor and all the other major Black Panther players but couldn't fit in Black Panther's queen?

    I guess they were going to explain it in the sequel but now I don't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vordan View Post
    Petty of me to take glee in how many problems this is causing Marvel? Maybe but I’m enjoying it all the same. Just try and replace T’Challa with Shuri Marvel.
    Feigie deserves it

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