Tony Stark: The Invincible Iron Man Appreciation 2022

[Ironman3000]

Sigh...first thing that i thought of was: "Again? Tony is going to lose everything again? Because that's only happened 50 times before lol" Ill give it a shot, but the leash is short.

[MichaelC]

Sigh...first thing that i thought of was: "Again? Tony is going to lose everything again? Because that's only happened 50 times before lol" Ill give it a shot, but the leash is short.

Then you've got more patience than I do. I'm already done with Dugan's run. The stale, stale description is already enough to make me go "nope".

[Dermie]

I enjoy Duggan as a writer so having him shepherd Tony could be fun...although losing his wealth, fame, and privilege feels so "been there, done that."

I see a lot of people in the thread are getting angry about this particular point -- but might Duggan not just be picking up where Cantwell is leaving off? We've already been told in the present arc that Tony's current mission to buy up all these super-weapons is likely going to cost him everything.

It just seems like some people are getting angry at Duggan already when we don't know the context -- and he MIGHT just be building from the status quo that Tony is left with at the end of Cantwell's run.

[Frontier]

I see a lot of people in the thread are getting angry about this particular point -- but might Duggan not just be picking up where Cantwell is leaving off? We've already been told in the present arc that Tony's current mission to buy up all these super-weapons is likely going to cost him everything.

It just seems like some people are getting angry at Duggan already when we don't know the context -- and he MIGHT just be building from the status quo that Tony is left with at the end of Cantwell's run.

That's fair. I mean, it would be nice for once to see a writer actually carry on from a previous run instead of treating it as a soft reboot like most relaunches are these days, yet is also just feels like it's doubling down on the same things.

[Ironman3000]

Its interesting...i dont know how many of you have read Spider Man And Daredevil over the years, but Tony, Peter and Matt should have their own support group lol. Marvel blows up their lives all the time and all 3 have had to rebuild their lives so many times, it makes me wonder if its just a coincidence, or something Marvel writers actually plan out.

[Huntsman Spider]

Its interesting...i dont know how many of you have read Spider Man And Daredevil over the years, but Tony, Peter and Matt should have their own support group lol. Marvel blows up their lives all the time and all 3 have had to rebuild their lives so many times, it makes me wonder if its just a coincidence, or something Marvel writers actually plan out.

That's actually a pretty good idea there. Hell, Peter just got his life blown up (yet) again in the beginning of the post-Beyond run by Zeb Wells, so he and Tony could have a lot to relate on besides being scientific geniuses with snarky senses of humor and massive guilt complexes. And Matt got his life blown up so badly he just gave up being Matt Murdock entirely (not for the first time, if counting the "armored Daredevil" period from the 90s) and embarked on a quest to destroy the Hand for good.

[rward777]

Then you've got more patience than I do. I'm already done with Dugan's run. The stale, stale description is already enough to make me go "nope".

Stark is getting Parkerized big time

[Marvell2100]

Sigh...first thing that i thought of was: "Again? Tony is going to lose everything again? Because that's only happened 50 times before lol" Ill give it a shot, but the leash is short.

Yeah, we don't need anymore of that. Slott's run may not have been the best but at least he didn't start his run with "Tony's lost everything".

[Ironman3000]

Yeah, we don't need anymore of that. Slott's run may not have been the best but at least he didn't start his run with "Tony's lost everything".

Besides, Fraction's run on the title pretty much set the benchmark for Tony losing everything stories..."Worlds Most Wanted" will be hard to top.

[Minerboh]

It's a new trope. Just like Asgard getting destroyed every once and a while, Peter and MJ seperating or having an arguement, Aunt May having a new husband/boyfriend only to bury him a couple of years later, Cap's shield getting shattered, Jean and the Phoenix Force having a picnic and others.

[MichaelC]

It's not even that he suffers loses, but that he mostly loses inanimate THINGS like his company. I just can't care about losing a company. And when he does periodically lose a person, like his fiancee Rumiko, he forgets she ever existed an issue later. He doesn't care, so why should I care? They like to make him suffer losses, but aren't interested in making him suffer long term grief because that gets in the way of them hitting the reset button and moving on to a new storyarc that ignores everything from the last storyarc. This effectively makes him a sociopath, or even a psychopath. Why would I care about what a psychopath loses when they are literally neurologically incapable of caring about those losses themselves?

[Minerboh]

Besides, Fraction's run on the title pretty much set the benchmark for Tony losing everything stories..."Worlds Most Wanted" will be hard to top.

He had lost everything before World's Most Wanted. His second fall in alcoolism (in which Stane took over Stark International) and he once gave his fortune away when he was developing his SKIN armor and after his brawl with that antagonist who had developed a virtual reality game (who had also stole his then girlfriend Rumiko.

[Omega Alpha]

Well, considering Duggan wrote Firestar in this week X-Men issue "forgetting" that she had been a member of the X-Men before, it's quite likely he'll either pretend all these stories in which Tony lost everything never happened or he just hasn't read them. Either way, it's impossible to be optimistic.

[Tony Stark]

Damn! Y’all are getting me depressed already. I’ve never read anything by Duggan. So I am now trepidatious to say the least.

[Omega Alpha]

Damn! Y’all are getting me depressed already. I’ve never read anything by Duggan. So I am now trepidatious to say the least.

Duggan is by no means a complete train wreck like, say, Jason Aaron these days. He has written good stuff, and his X-men book isn't bad, but it's just that he's, say, selective in his characterization, indicating he's either not done his homework or is deliberately ignoring things. His best written character in recent times was Synch, who was essentially a blank state.