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    Quote Originally Posted by the illustrious mr. kenway View Post
    Sure but since mutant powers can be random, i dont feel like the kids always have to have their parents abilities.

    i was thinking more like Blindspot, Daredevil's apprentice in the Soule/Garney run or Ms. Marvel.

    Legacies have the danger of feeling like diminishing returns. X-men and Inhumans avoid that because their powersets can be more randomized.

    I rather have the legacy aspect be expressed through the relationships than the powers.

    Bruce Banner trying to help someone with Earthquake powers would be more interesting than another hulk.
    I dunno, Skaar is pretty cool.

    I guess like everything else, if done right, legacy characters can be interesting whether it be from powersets or lineage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marhawkman View Post
    Variant powers can make it super fun.

    Wild-Thing in MC2 was amusing since she somehow has psionic claws. But is otherwise very kid-Wolverine.
    An interesting angle would be to use her powers to fake her having her father's abilities.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marvell2100 View Post
    I dunno, Skaar is pretty cool.

    I guess like everything else, if done right, legacy characters can be interesting whether it be from powersets or lineage.
    There are exceptions.

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    Straight up legacies? Thunderbird has Warpath and Banshee has Siryn. Other than that I can't think of any.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Technopriest View Post
    Straight up legacies? Thunderbird has Warpath and Banshee has Siryn. Other than that I can't think of any.
    There's Jason Wyngarde and Pixie and Lady Mastermind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Technopriest View Post
    Straight up legacies? Thunderbird has Warpath and Banshee has Siryn. Other than that I can't think of any.
    Those two are probably the best examples of successful legacies.
    I don't even think people would complain if Terry kept the Banshee codename.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvell2100 View Post
    There's Jason Wyngarde and Pixie and Lady Mastermind.
    Jason and the two Mastermind sisters for sure, Pixie? Not so much. Legacies refer to more than just blood relation, if that was the case, Cyclops and Cable would be and example, but they are not. To me a superhero legacy refers to characters that clearly are honoring the hero that came before them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Technopriest View Post
    Jason and the two Mastermind sisters for sure, Pixie? Not so much. Legacies refer to more than just blood relation, if that was the case, Cyclops and Cable would be and example, but they are not. To me a superhero legacy refers to characters that clearly are honoring the hero that came before them
    While that may be true, that isn't the only context I'm looking at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marhawkman View Post
    Variant powers can make it super fun.

    Wild-Thing in MC2 was amusing since she somehow has psionic claws. But is otherwise very kid-Wolverine.
    Mutants are supposed to have different powers than their parents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by norj View Post
    Mutants are supposed to have different powers than their parents.
    It seems to be somewhat of dice throw.

    1. Gain roughly the same powers as one of the parents (more likely when only one parent is a mutant).
    2. Gain a direct combination of both parents powers.
    3. Gain vague combination of both parents powers.
    4. Gain completely unrelated powers.
    5. Gain completely different powers but with a thematic relation to one or both parents.
    6. Gain completely different main powers than either of ther parents, but have secondary elements of either.

    This kind of randomness to the mutant power inheritance is one of the prime reason the entire "seperated species" idea arguably makes no sense. Mutants are so in-uniform and different from one another, including often parents to their children, that the only thing actualy connecting them are their normal human traits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by norj View Post
    Mutants are supposed to have different powers than their parents.
    Mr. Sinister would disagree with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by norj View Post
    Mutants are supposed to have different powers than their parents.
    completely different or just somewhat different though? :Þ

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    i do not think x-men need legacy characters.
    On the other hand I really like characters such as Ruby Summers, Nocturne, Cable, Kymera, Sora...
    children of mutants from future or from alternative realities.
    I would love being introduced with a future child of Rogue and Gambit and a child of Psylocke and Angel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by norj View Post
    Mutants are supposed to have different powers than their parents.
    John Byrne agreed. He said if a mutant's child has the exact same powers as their parent, that means they're not a mutant but the start of a new species.

    This is why Rachel was given her chronoskimming power from the get-go. Her tk and telepathy do not make her a mutant because she inherited them from Jean. What made her a mutant was her chronoskimming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whitecrown View Post
    John Byrne agreed. He said if a mutant's child has the exact same powers as their parent, that means they're not a mutant but the start of a new species.

    This is why Rachel was given her chronoskimming power from the get-go. Her tk and telepathy do not make her a mutant because she inherited them from Jean. What made her a mutant was her chronoskimming.
    This ties into why I spell it as "Mutant" and not "mutant". Marvel long ago stopped using the dictionary word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whitecrown View Post
    John Byrne agreed. He said if a mutant's child has the exact same powers as their parent, that means they're not a mutant but the start of a new species.

    This is why Rachel was given her chronoskimming power from the get-go. Her tk and telepathy do not make her a mutant because she inherited them from Jean. What made her a mutant was her chronoskimming.
    I don't agree with John Byrne on that one. If the child has the mutant gene and is born with powers, then they should be considered a mutant whether or not they have the same powers as their parent.

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