So, this was on a CBR article about Marvel reshuffling its film schedule:
It caught my eye because Marvel Studios once bumped BP when they got access to Spider-Man. Now BP is reshaping what people think about film release dates. Irony.Once a relatively dead month for movies, except for the stray romance, February became prime territory for big-budget superhero features in 2016 with the release of Deadpool, which set a number of box office records for the month. Marvel found blockbuster success this February with director Ryan Coogler’s Black Panther, which earned $1.3 billion worldwide.
Well I don't think it's hypocritical. I actually thought the sales of the first issue were pretty indicative of the enthusiasm people had in the new story that T'challa was facing; however, that was a completely wrong and very premature to make that assumption. The article that Cville linked to is very much so demonstrates this.
I thought the conversation regarding Adversary and Ororo were stimulating but it definitely resulted in exchanges I would prefer not having when having friendly discussion which may include some disagreements.
That said, I think that is actually the best attitude to have with solo efforts. With your mentions of Priest and Hudlin's run that was different time and different era. Again, as the article Cville linked to demonstrated the bleeding and poor sales is reflective across the market. And to you point about Storm's solo not getting above 12 issues, some characters luckily have the backing a company fully vested in the book even if it doesn't sell well. I think of Captain Marvel and Squirrel girl specifically. Storm's success or lack there of has a lot to do with gender and race (with race being a factor I believe that affects BP sustainability), as well as Marvel not owning the full rights to the Xmen. Marvel won't put the full backing in a character they don't own, which Captain Marvel and T'challa luckily don't have that problem attached to them. But as I figured some would occur with my post continue to throw the shade about Ororo instead of trying to examine the real reasons Tchalla's solo book sustainability seem to be problematic. Throwing digs at Ororo is not addressing the problem I see in T'challa's solo sustainability.
I'm not knocking on previous writers and what they did to elevate this character. Also, how are you concluding Priest and Hudlin didn't have the full backing of Marvel? Didn't Hudlin's book get relaunched after his first run? I don't agree with your assessment of how T'challa was written. I think you have to consider all the things that plagued him going into the book Coates wrote. For me at least he needed to go through a redemption story of sorts to make a lot of the trails he endured well before Coates was even attached to T'challa.
I think you have made a lot of valid points, especially the points about race and the writer. To the latter, I think Coates was a big enough writer coming in but maybe the problem was the controversy around his name, as well as him never actually writing a comic. I think aside from the writer point, I think the bigger point is the race factor. I'm not convince that the predominant comic readers (who tend to be white male) sincerely want to read about a black character, even with the success that the movie had because movie sales never translate to comic sales. And if it does it is not for any long duration of time.
Thank you this hits on the point I was making about the market.
Oh I agree, especially with the last part; however, I don't think his movie sales has anything to do with how well his solo book will sale. There are not like for like in terms of what a consumer will pay for.
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He is great at making great movies. But his special effects needs a lot of work. Here’s hoping he improves a lot for the sequel.
He has the best cinematography in the MCU even any superhero film produced yet, however his inability to incorporate the green screen brings the shots down some.
I’m guessing Marvel Studios mandate all filming happens one atlanta, hence why he had to use a lot of green screen. He will have to adopt to it better.
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As many have pointed out, BP has had successful runs despite little to no promotion from Marvel. And there are many popular characters who don't have lengthy solo runs.
In this era of comics, wondering why BP can't sustain a solo is the wrong way to look at it.
This is the most important thing: BP continues to get opportunities for solos because he's a viable character and can be done very well in the right hands. There is a built in hardcore Panther fanbase of about 15-20 thousand readers who follow BP. You make sure to grab that audience and then expand outward because these are the readers who will be around for the next BP solo or will follow BP in other titles.
There are a lot of characters who don't have lengthy solo runs. But some of these characters continue to get solo opportunities, minis, appear in other titles get promo pushes and get trades out as well as other products like toys, clothing etc. BP is in that class now.
I would also add that the action should be improved as well.
I think the CGI problem could be based on the assumption Marvel spent a lot of their money on Infinity War with the special effects, action set pieces and the amount of cast members and extras which may have caused them to spend a bit less on other movies during the time of shooting.
Probably this.
I heard that the special effects for scene where T'Challa and Killmonger where falling down in to the Vibranium mines were still being worked on in December (two months before release) by one of the visual effects company and said it was hell working on those effects over that period of time.
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What exactly do you think Tchalla needed redemption for? Because the stuff we saw made zero sense in S1 and 2. Really it felt like Coates simply didn't like and/or understand things about the mythos and felt the need to address them, even if that meant hurting then mythos as a whole. Dod you know in a podcast he actually said his season 2 wasn't for dedicated BP fans? Basically he wanted to tell thistory he did and it wasn't elevate T'Challa or Wakanda.
As for your controversy point, are talking about from BP fans? Because in general there was hype from all over
But dedicated fans were paying attention tonehst he said in interviews and that's where people started worrying about Tchalla and his treatment because of what was said.