Last edited by The Quiet Councilor; 12-10-2019 at 04:38 PM.
again you are asking the hard questions. Jean can reach out to tchalla when she had zero interaction with him up to red but somehow ororo cant seem to even utter his name ?? and boom!!! you said that!!! they dont have interest in her and it's especially clear when you listen to that interview. she was like an afterthought lol.
but I love how her being a mutant, black woman, and goddess is boring yet her getting dropped kicked on a boat is exciting and invigorating character development. how does hat work?
omg why are you hitting me with all the hard truths today??? excellent observation as it pertains to Monet and bishop. can you explain what noteworthy thing that ororo has done since dox/hox began that has pushed her character development any further than where she was before the event? she still seems to be background fodder to me.
can you say this again louder QC!! Yall are really dropping these knowledge bombs today!!!
Last edited by butterflykyss; 12-10-2019 at 04:09 PM.
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This. Especially considering the care he’s taken with her character shames the combined effort of the X-office over the past decade and half. What does Ororo have to show for herself with the X-men since AvX wrapped? The marriage realistically sidelined her in mutant affairs. She was not shown as an active proponent of mutant affairs. I get that. I just don’t understand how any of that matters to the stories available to her now. Jean Grey was able to make Wakanda work for her idea of a better future for mutants. Why wouldn’t Storm do that and more?
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I mean what are the xoffices intimidated by? Duggan mentioned that he didnt know about Franklin Richards but I'm most certain the F4 appeared in DoX/HoX. I'm not saying Tchalla is a package deal with Ororo but how she is written it would be as if she hasnt seen Tvhalla since their divorce. There are ways you can acknowledge others work without deviating from your main story. That is how shared universes should work.
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I think I understand, my friend. If playing up her BLACK roots is so boring then that must be the reason her solo bombed. Pak had the audacity to open it up with Ororo saving a whole village of black people from a tsunami. Her arrest by the FBI even sparked a crowd. Priest, Pak and Coates crafted stories of little black kids looking up to her. Those are things that stand out to me. None of those runs were the majors sellers that some would have us believe.
Ororo’s most notable story beats since HOX/DOX got started is her status amongst the omegas and the quiet council. Given that her narrative as a black woman is boring and of no importance, I really don’t see what meaningful diversity she represents in either of those groups. But maybe if Coates wasn’t writing her she could be in more titles welcoming more mutants back to life.
Entertaining! Please, continue this intriguing discussion!
I don't that was the main issue.
Storm suffers from the same issue Cyborg does at DC.
Over her 40+ years- what stories would be considered the essential Storm centric stories? As a LEAD not the support of co-lead.
Those stories where you say "YES I am proud to be a Storm fan because of this story right HERE!" Like Cyborg-she does not have that many especially in the late 90s-NOW.
Now if her book came out the same time as she got married and was a companion book to Panther-like we saw with Tim Drake's Robin while he was in Batman. Panther shows her as a wife and queen and the solo shows her as a mutant/black woman.
That is your bridge between franchises. There is a HUGE consequence to not fully developing a character especially one of color in team books.
Also remember there are stores that take issue with SOME black female lead books.
Some for legit business reasons (they don't sell-an issue that is HUGE with oversea stores)
Some for racist reasons- Image's Motor Crush says HI.
So remember that hurts sales. It's starting to change but we have a LONG way to go.
right? maybe the thing that isnt boring is running up behind the xmen being their token. of maybe it's her having the title of omega and being on the council while in actuality not having any meaningful impact to the overall direction of mutantkind. I see this with Emma, Sebastian, kitty, cyclops, wolverine, magneto, Xavier.... not so much with ororo. I'm sure you can see the pattern there.
yea hopefully this will be last of the goddess and interactions in BP so that we can get more of her welcoming newborn mutants like the stereotypical "mammie midwife." I'm also hoping we get a nice serving of drop kicks in the torso too once coates is done with writing her. Her future is so bright within the xoffices!!!!
that is not entirely accurate. even though it was a info page the mauraders were passing encrypted hard drives to mutants in Africa. however, I do agree this would be more suited in a mini or ongoing.
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Finally, thank you! let me enjoy my drop kicks to the gut. lol. I enjoyed that more than mother ororo acting like she had more than a telepathic education when it comes to schooling scholars on the world they grew up in and was around far longer than she. I'm done with the long speeches that start with, "Let me tell you what i know of..." ends with "And thats what i know of" and i still don't know nothing. lol
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ALL HAIL THE HADARI YAO, THE OMEGA'S OMEGA, BEYOND OMEGA, THE VOICE OF SOL!!!! NOW AGAIN THE ONE TRUE AND ONLY GODDESS OF THE X-MEN AS CLAREMONT INTENDED!!!!!
Don't let anyone else hold the candle that lights the way to your future because only you can sustain the flame.
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#conceptualthinking ^_^
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