Betsy Braddock: Psylocke Appreciation 2018

[Tazirai]

Well her body wasn't stolen in the beginning it was mixed with Betsy's, now if that happened much more recently that's a whole different story...

I think you're doing the semantics thing. Her body was stolen from her by another woman. Stolen by Mojo, stolen by spiral and violated in the worst way. But mixing is just another way of saying stolen.

[WhiteQueenEmmaFrost]

I think you're doing the semantics thing. Her body was stolen from her by another woman. Stolen by Mojo, stolen by spiral and violated in the worst way. But mixing is just another way of saying stolen.

No.

Quite literally Kawannon and Betsy were MIXED genetically in Spiral's body shop. They were given aspects of each other in the process. When Wolverine first encounters Psylocke in Kawannon's body he knows it's her because of her face

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[PsionicHero]

No.

Quite literally Kawannon and Betsy were MIXED genetically in Spiral's body shop. They were given aspects of each other in the process. When Wolverine first encounters Psylocke in Kawannon's body he knows it's her because of her face

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Uncanny 257

Which...was done...against both women's wills...so I think it's fair to say that not only were their 'bodies' stolen, but so were their essences. Now I don't think it's fair to say Psylocke stole Kwannon's body. However, both women were violated.

[Tazirai]

No.

Quite literally Kawannon and Betsy were MIXED genetically in Spiral's body shop. They were given aspects of each other in the process. When Wolverine first encounters Psylocke in Kawannon's body he knows it's her because of her face

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Uncanny 257

That's the retcon.
The facts are It was Psylocke cosmetically altered. Then the next retcon was a swap. Then the next retcon was a mix. Then Kwannon Died and stayed dead. Then Psylocke died, and Jamie created an NU 50/50 body.

Both women had ZERO choices in it.

Stolen!

Which...was done...against both women's wills...so I think it's fair to say that not only were their 'bodies' stolen, but so were their essences. Now I don't think it's fair to say Psylocke stole Kwannon's body. However, both women were violated.

This. They literally had their bodies and lives stolen from them by others.

Steal/Stolen

verb (used with object), stole, stolen, stealing.
1.
to take (the property of another or others) without permission or right, especially secretly or by force:
A pickpocket stole his watch.

Again a picture of costumes turned into a deep discussion lol. The Swap needs to be addressed by Marvel one day, definitively end it or go with it.
Make her immune to further alteration permanently even cloning, or fix it.

Again this guys costuem changes are for HIS world, where he brought Kwannon back.

[Tazirai]

Yardin killed it.



https://twitter.com/davidyardin/stat...65571225698305

Always love his eyes and cheeks.

[CGAR]

She's not showing up in Xmen Gold annual. Which I guess is okay. I'd rather have someone else than Gugs write her interaction with her family.

[Tazirai]

She's not showing up in Xmen Gold annual. Which I guess is okay. I'd rather have someone else than Gugs write her interaction with her family.

Well, that sucks.
I just wish someone who actually cared for her personally wrote her more.
She has a family, she is a Braddock.
She is part Fae.
She reconciled with Brian. Why is this so hard for Marvel writers to get.
Hell, they don't even have to draw her in that stupid thong anymore, and people still shy away from her.

Is the taint that strong?

[WhiteQueenEmmaFrost]

That's the retcon.

That's from Uncanny 257 when it originally happened. I don't think you understand what a "retcon" is if I'm giving you proof from the ORIGINAL document.

[Tazirai]

That's from Uncanny 257 when it originally happened. I don't think you understand what a "retcon" is if I'm giving you proof from the ORIGINAL document.

In that issue. There WAS NO KWANNON. You're NOT giving me proof.

It was Psylocke and Logan. The Retcon of Kwannon occurred when Nicienza took over. Trust me on this. I'm pretty much a Psylocke specialist nerd.

Here's the character listing for that issue. Here's the actual Proof. I've spoken to Nicieza himself on this issue.

Psylocke and Logan Only.
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/the-u...in/4000-32337/


This is when the retcon begins. Also Revance/Kwannon's first appearance

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revanche X-men V2 Issue #17
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/x-men...r-/4000-36875/


Other Discussions on the Retcon.
http://www.therealgentlemenofleisure...x-men-256.html

irsts and Other Notables
This issue is the first appearance of "Hot Asian Ninja Psylocke", as the post-Siege Perilous Betsy is transformed into an Asian assassin by the Hand in order to serve as the Mandarin's chief enforcer. Ninja Psylocke is up there on the X-Men Mount Rushmore of characters who signify the sensibilities of comics in the early 90s, both for the way the character is given a makeover to work more stereotypically "kewl" traits into her characterization, and for the way the already complicated process of transforming her into a ninja assassin is further complicated via later retcons (basically, Fabian Nicieza later establishes that Psylocke's body wasn't physically transformed; rather, her mind was placed in the body of an existing ninja assassin, while the assassin's mind went into Psylocke's original body).

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Me and Fabians Discussion from afew years ago.

Skip to the bottom.

http://community.comicbookresources....thoughts/page2

As for Psylocke, I completely own that whole screw up and have always taken full responsibility for it, so... even 20 years later, you have absolutely every right to still be upset with me! :-)

- Fabian

https://zhaxra.deviantart.com/art/Or...ined-469396305

[Dementia5]

Yardin killed it.



https://twitter.com/davidyardin/stat...65571225698305

Always love his eyes and cheeks.

I absolutely adore David Yardin's work. He captures Psylocke perfectly (and his Wonder Woman is a sight to behold).

[crimsontt]

Which are the golden days of psylocke on ur opinion??

Claremont/Jim Lee early 90's
Remender's Uncanny X-force
Bunn's Uncanny X-Men
Wood's X-Men + Spurrier's X-Force

[MentalManipulator]

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I always thought Betsy would have made a very deadly, quick and precise phoenix host. She would be so creepy it would have been amazing.

[PsionicHero]

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I always thought Betsy would have made a very deadly, quick and precise phoenix host. She would be so creepy it would have been amazing.

Thought about doing this version for my next Genderbent cosplay.

[MentalManipulator]

Thought about doing this version for my next Genderbent cosplay.

It would totally work for a guy! Let us see when it's done ;-)

[PsionicHero]

It would totally work for a guy! Let us see when it's done ;-)

My Jim Lee Psylocke Genderbent Cosplay

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